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[–]reluctant_commenter 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Hey, I think that's a fantastic idea! Sounds like we are thinking mostly of two issues:

  • Discrimination

  • Anti-competitive actions

As regards discrimination, I think there is a lot of material out there, it is just not organized yet. You might be interested to know that:

  • GenderCritical and GenderCriticalGuys held the exact same views.

  • GenderCritical, the women's sub, was banned and GenderCriticalGuys, the men's sub was allowed to stay up for weeks afterward.

SuperLesbian subs get banned instantly. We are literally not allowed a place on reddit. So many of our subs have gotten banned I can't even keep track. Examples:

  • truelesbians, which then moved to Saidit and is now s/lesbians

  • a sub called r/biologicallesbians was started by a an entirely different group of people than the ones on r/truelesbians-- yet it got banned for supposedly being "a subreddit that was already banned, run by the same people as truelesbians"

  • super_lesbian

  • superlesbians (was private and for SuperLesbians, got banned)

  • The most sinister: another hidden SuperLesbians sub that got found out-- I don't even know how, I never saw the name posted and only found out about it through DMs!!! There were maybe 12-15 of us total on it and it had a random name.

There are a couple more I'm forgetting, but anyway, Reddit bans/censors even private SuperLesbian subs. Like it's not just public subs-- you literally can't make a private subreddit for lesbians without getting banned, even.

[–]WildApples[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly! And how Reddit initially included the forum for PCOS as part of their purge of supposed hate subs last year and left misogynistic porn subs up. And when SuperStraight got banned, someone on Twitter pointed out that the pornographic r/degradingholes gets away with explicitly limiting its material to "cis women." So men on Reddit are allowed to distinguish between men who identify as women and actual women, but women are not.

[–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep!!! Those are great examples, thanks for adding.

So men on Reddit are allowed to distinguish between men who identify as women and actual women, but women are not.

EXACTLY.

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    [–]reluctant_commenter 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's archive.is. It is not broken! There are tons of saved posts on there still. You can search by the name of the subreddit that was banned, plus an asterisk after the slash "/", to find old posts.

    E.g.

    saved posts from r/SuperStraight: https://archive.is/https://www.reddit.com/r/SuperStraight/*

    saved posts from LGBDropTheT, which was banned when it hit the 20k subscribers mark: https://archive.is/https://www.reddit.com/r/LGBDroptheT/*

    GenderCritical: https://archive.is/https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/*

    GenderCriticalGuys: https://archive.is/https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCriticalGuys/*

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    I think it's broken. All of them are. Being bigger than reddit without its revenue isn't easy.

    [–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Nope, not broken, it's archive.is. I just added some links responding to the same comment you did.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Archive only has some posts, from certain subs.

    [–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Oh actually, were you thinking of Removedit? If so, you're correct, it broke several months ago :( used to be amazing for seeing deleted/removed comments. I'm not sure who runs it.

    [–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes, because a bunch of us saved them. There are over 300 saved links from r/SuperStraight, for example.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

    were you quiet when other rw subs got banned

    [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      yeah I said that wrong I mean other subs that yeah are all rw got banned in recent years, were these straight people silent

      [–]jet199 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Not just right wing.

      All the feminist, female and lesbian subs got banned too.

      [–]WildApples[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I only started using Reddit last year shortly before the purge, so I have no knowledge of what has happened to other subs in the past. I have always supported free speech and been critical of tech censorship, but I have to say if you are going to limit your allies to purists who spoke out from the very beginning, your movement is not going to grow very big or go very far.

      [–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      but I have to say if you are going to limit your allies to purists who spoke out from the very beginning, your movement is not going to grow very big or go very far.

      Completely agree. Sometimes people just don't know this stuff is going on.. because it is censored... that's nobody's fault, except the fault of the people doing the censoring, i.e. big corporations.

      [–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Not sure if they're all there during the hoax, but reddit has an address in SF where you could go provide individual rebuttals to admins and officers alike.