Allowable "Pride"

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[–]sawboss 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

slavery is alive in and well being used by blacks in Africa up to this day

The implication being that currently slavery is openly practiced in majority black countries. You should post pictures and population statistics to go along with that.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Do you not remember that woman auctioned off as a bride in exchange for cattle, and other goods? It was held on facebook, don't remember?

And what of anything else I mentioned?

[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

not facebook

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

not facebook

You realize that this is a forum for discussion, or debate, or just shooting the shit, right? The link below, via google, to CNN about FACEBOOK.

Facebook under fire for posts on auction of child bride https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/20/africa/south-sudan-child-bride-facebook-auction-intl/index.html

QUOTE: "An auction was discussed on the social media platform for a girl aged 16 or 17 in South Sudan that sought payment for her hand in marriage. Facebook said the post was taken down as soon as the company learned of it, but that wasn't until after the girl involved was married. According to children's rights organization Plan International, the girl was bid on by five men, some of whom were reportedly high-ranking South Sudanese government officials."

EDITED TO ADD THIS PORTION: "Activists are concerned that this auction -- for which the father reportedly received 500 cows, three cars and $10,000 in exchange for his daughter -- could inspire other families to use *social media sites to receive larger payments."*

Should these African's not share in black pride because of slavery, or is this part of their pride? I would like to add here, that like whites, not all blacks are the same; there are differences in culture, and I guess more, not sure. I do know that the black folk I grew up around, had their I believe it was 'clicks'

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Should these African's not share in black pride because of slavery, or is this part of their pride?

"Black" has significant cultural and historical meaning.
I don't think that Africans consider themselves "black" in the way you're staying it in relation to their skin tone.
"Black pride" is an African American term.
I don't think that Africans who move to the US are considered African Americans.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Take a moment to look at the tongue, and brain twisting circle jerk we're forced to maintain today. An African that moved from Africa to the United States, could be described as 'African-American'; see how it can get ridiculously confusing?

This isn't by mistake, at least by way of some of the 'founders' of the USA. I believe Patrick Henry, and others made mention of the word games. I know I've got 2 Black's Law Dictionaries; one is modern, and one is older, a lot of the definitions are the same, but some that I think count, have seriously been changed.

Imagine applying modern defined terms to the documents still in force that were created with a different meaning... Shift this over to modern politically correct speech, and well, there you go... A simple example is rap music's use of Latin word for black. When young black people use the word no problem, when a young different color person, white, or other, it's offensive. That's actually fine, but I note that it's usually people that truly embrace black culture, as in they identify with it, that bear the brunt of their own interests, or identity.

[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You realize that this is a forum for discussion, or debate, or just shooting the shit, right?

It isn't used that way.

Should these African's not share in black pride because of slavery, or is this part of their pride?

Ideally I should not have to care. If they ask my permission I'd tell them no.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's pretty clear that the Sudanese who auctioned his daughter off to the highest bidder benefited greatly from the facebook media attention. While the actual auction didn't happen on facebook, the site aided in driving the price for a living human being up so high, that the fear was that all Sudanese, or others would be using it as a promotion tool.....

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Or it was a PsyOp to manipulate public perception.

That would be my guess.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The auction wasn't real? Modern slavery is a real thing, or do you also say psyop to that?

PsyOps don't leave links, but then again, most people think there's an approved link somewhere all the time.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It doesn't need to be real or fake to be a PsyOp.

It just needs to be viral so that is noticed.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It isn't used that way.

Oh shit, we've got someone who doesn't know they're participating in a thread in a forum.....

I've read countless posts on this site, people all stating they want to make a 'difference', that they want to perhaps steer public debate with I would presume ideas discussed.

I actually appreciate the negativity, and lack of any meaningful commitment on your part for this. It's given me an idea, on furthering an idea, that will probably go nowhere, BUT, it's a positive idea at a means to realize equality, void of any subjugation of any group, which by way of common sense, isn't real equality.