New Zealand bans terror suspect's racist manifesto; citizens told to 'destroy any copies'

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[–]danmem 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

i think the main thing we should be trying to prevent is an us vs them mentality. This guy killed 50 people in those mosques. Its not that he killed 50 muslims. He killed 50 people. with families, friends, and lives that they lived. They were not an ideology.

No one has asked anyone to convert to islam, some random dickheads thoughts are asked to be forgotten. I doubt anyone is going to get arrested from this.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The question is, who is 'us', as opposed to 'them'? Under what conditions, and circumstances do we define these parameters? How do you propose to accomplish this new ideology beyond feel goodism? Also, to achieve this 'unity' of a single united front, what must everyone be willing to give up, that each will do selflessly for said 'strength'? I mean most need a vision, so there would have to be a cause for it; what's the unifying cause?

[–]danmem 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not proposing a new Ideology. Im recognising the fact that people in general are not pushing forth some extremist ideology, so to categorise populations of millions of people into these distinct ideological groups is counterproductive to a peaceful coexistance. I don't believe we need a united 'front' because that implies a united front against something. We live in a mostly peaceful society out here in Oceanea (Australia and New Zealand), and i have friends from varying backgrounds, including muslims. I plan on keeping it that way. An obsession with labels and categorisation of people is perpetuating violence. The fight against extremism is with tolerance, and understanding. condemnation of any lone gunman is a good thing. extremists of both sides are fucked, and this horrible massacre clearly shows this to be true.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I absolutely agree on not jumping on any 'bandwagon' because it 'feels' right. On that note, I also think that when in the context you mention, Islam, when something is different to you, learn it; learn the people behind it.

My own personal beliefs, always stand your ground in the face of change you never agreed on, know the risks, and always have respect around others; it could be the difference between a good, or bad day.