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[–]HeyImSancho[S] 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

I do believe NZ is a global command and control test bed. Just look at what they're doing. A foreigner who's been to every buzzword, evil country, buys a whole bunch of heavy hardware, and then the chaos follows. Now, the average people are collectively feeling the punishment, and aren't even allowed to view any of the subject matter being used against them, because of what let's face it, a 'spook' type guy did.

Does it make sense? No

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

So, by 'default' I'm a Trump supporter, but not any further than my own morals, edicts and dictates allow. Having that said, I've always leaned towards Trump not being what he says he is; the reasons have always been clear, and on the table. So in regards to the article you linked, no I don't believe it's only about Trump, and his supporters; I do believe things are somewhat about those that can, and do fall into the 'support' group though.

I personally try to look for the ultimate benefactor, and decide from there what I maybe seeing in the world of global history, and events. Usually everything runs from the top down, in a command, and control way. Several ways into, and several ways out of any given point of interest. Throw in a little psychological conditioning, and anything is possible; including the unthinkable.

I mention this, as look at the USA, and the past 3 + decades, 'they', and the controlled media have used reverse psychology by telling Americans to prepare, buy guns, become a 'prepper', buy more guns, buy more guns, and some ammo too! Are Americans being trained like junkyard dogs? So psychologically abused, and yet prepared to almost wage a real war without back up?? It's true, there are enough folks armed, and prepped anymore, and becoming more angry, as their core values are ripped away, and I think it's by design. Even Trump recently hinted at this 'ready army', he went onto mention how well controlled they are.

Hope, without study would say, 'it's divine destiny, and god's will to protect America.' While logic, and study would conclude, 'holy hell, they've been prepping us for something, and making sure everyone has a little skin in the game.'

On that note, I'm not sure what's going on exactly, but it's being shown to be a global struggle.

[–]fred_red_beans 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I'm not sure if I buy he was shooting blanks, as I can see the impacts from the 3 shotgun blasts to the windsheild. It seems he knows not to shoot through the windshield in areas that block his view. I have never seen human beings shot like that in real life.

It does look well organized, and I wouldn't put it past the globalists to put forth this type of action just to stir shit up. They knew what would happen in Iraq, Lybia, and Syria. Cheney said it would be a bad idea to invade Iraq as it would create a quagmire between the Shias, Sunnis, Kurds, and Turkey. They knew the hell they brought to Lybia and Syria would create mass immigration and refuges to other countries. What's to stop them from supporting a covert cell to carry out "alt right terrorism" here in the US? Just as Chicago didn't believe Smolette, I'm hoping the good people in our law enforcement and military service would not turn a blind eye to this.

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

note, he was not using the shotgun in the mosque and i am half convinced by the brass cartridges disappearing mid air.

[–]fred_red_beans 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He did use the shotgun at the very beginning. The video is poor resolution and it's hard to make out details. You may have seen this the people in red and the car that is there and then gone are a bit strange.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

people in red and the car that is there and then gone are a bit strange.

Along with the very strange timing of the red arrivals.

How often do people dress completely in red in New Zealand?

Combine this with the supression mania from the NZ govt. It doesn't make any sense.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm wondering the same thing about law enforcement, and military; as I think it will ultimately be everyone's proverbial neck on the line... Here's to hope!

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, it all appeared very real, including the shotgun holes through the windshield, the bodies jerking with bullet impacts, and visible blood at various points.

[–]Node 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

https://www.jamesfetzer.org/2019/03/scott-bennett-the-new-zealand-shooting-what-happened-and-why/

It's so odd to see the efforts being made by multiple sources to "debunk" the shooting, and cast it as a fake of some kind. Many of the claims in that article are blatantly false, as anyone who's watched the video would know. What is this about? Who's behind all these videos and articles trying to convince people the shooting was fake?

By Scott Bennett, Ph.D. (ABD) Former U.S. Army Psychological Operations Officer and State Department Counterterrorism Contractor

Psychological Operations Officer

Hmmm. 🤔

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

yes, good point, but what do you think about his points and the video with the disappearing brass cartridges?

[–]Node 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

False and disingenuous. The cartridges don't disappear on a good monitor. Blood is seen. Bodies jerk, and/or eject parts when shot. It's not caught on his camera, but he drops that magazine (and probably kicks it) as he turns from shooting into that room on the right, to go up the hall. All the "debunking" points fail.

Just saw a new one on a video this afternoon. Guy agrees everything was real, but cites various appearances of RED in the video as proof the shooter was surrounded by handlers the whole time. Anyway, have read hours of these arguments, often supported by screen caps or real life pics of the mosque. My contention is that it was entirely real - people were shot and died - but there's not enough data to say whether or not "handlers" were involved.

I have the shooting video 11 tabs to the right, but am guessing it would be too hot to handle for this site.


The "red handler" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TSum0TG75M&t=1s

[–]Tom_Bombadil 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They could be trying to beta test the weaponization of the Streisand effect. Attempt to measure the extent that how allegedly sensitive/contraband material spread, etc.

It strikes me as odd that this attempt is being made to censor/suppress a live streamed event that is certain to be viral; when everyone knows that it impossible to actually suppress.

Imagine if "leaked" footage or documentation about the existence is aliens or some pandemic disease was circulating. TPTB would definitely be interested in the methods of circulation etc in the preceding years/months. This info world be indispensable in formulating a strategy.

Also, locking down New Zealand may be an early milestone in their planning. It seems to be a likely destination for elite peppers, etc.

[–]Vigte 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, locking down New Zealand may be an early milestone in their planning. It seems to be a likely destination for elite peppers, etc.

This.

[–]Rowan 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They are probably worried about copycats, or maybe they're using it to lord more control over the citizens. Either way, aren't they doing exactly what the manifesto writer said he wanted to get them to do?

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, exactly what the manifesto wanted; almost like it was a short time script we all got to read, and now are seeing it played out. The world is a stage, and we're all actors, right?!

[–]SaidtItFirst 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Also, convert to Islam!!!!

OK racism is bad, but ya know what's worse?? ISLAM!!! It's racism of the thoughts! They even admit that unbelievers shall be put to death!

[–]danmem 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

i think the main thing we should be trying to prevent is an us vs them mentality. This guy killed 50 people in those mosques. Its not that he killed 50 muslims. He killed 50 people. with families, friends, and lives that they lived. They were not an ideology.

No one has asked anyone to convert to islam, some random dickheads thoughts are asked to be forgotten. I doubt anyone is going to get arrested from this.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The question is, who is 'us', as opposed to 'them'? Under what conditions, and circumstances do we define these parameters? How do you propose to accomplish this new ideology beyond feel goodism? Also, to achieve this 'unity' of a single united front, what must everyone be willing to give up, that each will do selflessly for said 'strength'? I mean most need a vision, so there would have to be a cause for it; what's the unifying cause?

[–]danmem 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not proposing a new Ideology. Im recognising the fact that people in general are not pushing forth some extremist ideology, so to categorise populations of millions of people into these distinct ideological groups is counterproductive to a peaceful coexistance. I don't believe we need a united 'front' because that implies a united front against something. We live in a mostly peaceful society out here in Oceanea (Australia and New Zealand), and i have friends from varying backgrounds, including muslims. I plan on keeping it that way. An obsession with labels and categorisation of people is perpetuating violence. The fight against extremism is with tolerance, and understanding. condemnation of any lone gunman is a good thing. extremists of both sides are fucked, and this horrible massacre clearly shows this to be true.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I absolutely agree on not jumping on any 'bandwagon' because it 'feels' right. On that note, I also think that when in the context you mention, Islam, when something is different to you, learn it; learn the people behind it.

My own personal beliefs, always stand your ground in the face of change you never agreed on, know the risks, and always have respect around others; it could be the difference between a good, or bad day.

[–]HeyImSancho[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The concept of racism, isn't actually rooted in evil, but it isn't used right. It's ingrained in any living being that has fight, or flight; which is everyone.

Our fight, or flight is always on, or should be, and it's what is meant to discern friend from foe, do we fight, do we run, do we embrace.

When ignorant, or young, we literally don't have enough worldly experience on average to comprehend friend, or foe on anything other than simplistic concepts. Depending on lessons, and experiences learned, or even lack there of, impacts what happens next.

The 'what comes next', is duration/age, and the remembered experiences, and lessons learned, and how they shaped us. I guess at this point, a person's full ability to create coherent thought, or use their critical thinking skills are either in full play, or full NPC.

I guess life, and life's lesson are like 'The Force', you can either learn them, and master them, or ride along spewing the responses npc's are trained for.

[–]useless_aether 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

meanwhile: https://i.imgtc.com/6BBUQMX.png

create demand, create scarcity, profit

[–]fuckReddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

what the fuck

[–]Vigte 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]techguy69 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Looks like I won’t be using mega.nz anytime soon.