Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: ‘Illegal Aliens Are My Constituents’

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[–]TabascoPisshole 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

Such a fucking cunt.

[–]Trans_Girl_Crying 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

You sure are.

[–]EndlessSunflowers 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

It's hilarious when clueless white people in North America talk about "illegal aliens" - total lack of self-awareness - they think this is "their country" LOL - I'm happy to see AOC pissing off small minds again!

[–]CapriciousMask 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How dare a country with established laws and borders to expect their government to use their taxes on the actual citizenry! What good is establishing a society if you can't collapse it on a whim for virtue signalling points?

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Who's country" would you think it is? And can you explain how exactly AOC is pissing off small minds in a productive way? I mean, anyone can say just about anything that would piss off anyone else; doesn't mean it's productive; so please enlighten us.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It just really clicked the other day for me how Republicans are against abortion because they want more white babies to have more Republican voters.

And that's why democrats are pro-abortion, and also pro-immigration. Because immigrants typically vote Democrat.

So the whole immigration debate, and the whole abortion debate, basically are only hot for decades because of the fact it's the primary means by which each party can gain more voters.

Completely changed how I look at those discussions, especially in the media.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It just really clicked the other day for me how Republicans are against abortion because they want more white babies to have more Republican voters. And that's why democrats are pro-abortion...

I really don't think the typical voter cares about abstract concepts like electoral power politics. I've never heard anyone make argue policies in order to affect the voting base. All pro-choice support I have ever heard is based around the bodily autonomy of the mother. Pro-life support is ostensibly in favour of not "ending life", usually on some conceptual basis of when life begins or on the basis of future possibilities of that life. The pro-life support often seems rooted in religious beliefs rather than concern for the quality of life of the child however.

Operating under the assumption that you are correct:

The payoff of abortion legislation would have a minimum of 18 years delayed effect. No voter gives enough shits about politics to plan that far in advance. People don't even plan what they're going to have for breakfast the next morning lol.

Plus: being pro-life wouldn't necessarily help republicans nor would being pro-choice necessarily help democrats in terms of sheer voter base. Based on this report "Among the 30 areas that reported cross-classified race/ethnicity data for 2014, non-Hispanic white women and non-Hispanic black women accounted for the largest percentages of all abortions (38.0% and 36.0%, respectively)". Black people vote overwhelmingly democrat, like 90% and above, so being pro-choice (and thus allowing more abortions) would actually decrease the number of democrat voters in the long run.

And this is totally ignoring the point that adopting these policies is what actually swings voters more than the long term effects of this bizarre population control worldview that you seem to have.

With regards to immigration, maybe. I'll concede that immigrants are generally more democrat, and that the possibility of the Democratic Party choosing policies to maintain power (read: increase voter base) in this manner isn't entirely unlikely. Again I would question if the typical democrat voter takes such a cynical viewpoint however - based on my experience most people supporting increased immigration (or refugees) support the development of the economy (or saving people from horrible circumstances).

Looking at "the whole immigration debate" or "the whole abortion debate" purely in the framework of electoral power politics seems unilateral, deeply cynical, and avoids any interpretation of the morality of the actual policies.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I really don't think the typical voter cares about abstract concepts like electoral power politics.

Oh I completely agree. I just think they care about it because that's what the media tells them is important, and the media talks about it because DNC pays them to. The main reason both abortion and immigration have become such explosive issues is because of the media, which is because of who pays the media to push stories.

pro-life wouldn't necessarily help republicans

I think this is true now, but wasn't true 30 years ago and there's just leftover momentum. Also see the Catholic Church did the same thing, which is why they're so anti-contraception, because they want more Catholics, to grow the power of the Catholic Church.

I don't mean to say this is the only dynamic at play with these issues, but rather the over-focusing on these issues is due to people paying the media to goat people in to focusing in to them, because those are the issues that benefit the Republican Party and Democrat Party.

When election advertisement funding for presidents is over a billion for each candidate, it's not hard to imagine that they would spend similar money sending out a messaging signal to the media to the public, to grow their own voting demographics, and shrink the demographics of their opponents. It's just another way for people in power to secure their power. Why wouldn't they?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The main reason both abortion and immigration have become such explosive issues is because of the media

...the over-focusing on these issues is due to people paying the media...

The only use of this rhetoric is to provide topics that the media is intentionally sidelining, or other topics that may be more relevant. Abortion and immigration both seem relevant given that the president has significantly defunded planned parenthood and implemented policies which are causing issues such as the hunting down of DACA children and the expansion of racist rhetoric. I wouldn't say that the focus on these issues is purely media driven, people's lives are actually affected by this. Obviously everything is exacerbated by media, but this isn't some spectre which doesn't exist. More interesting and relevant examples of media bias may be the Democratic Party's silencing of Bernie from most media and the Republican's portrayal of the situation in Venezuela, both of which serve the interests of higher capital.

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've been down the road of abortion debates a time, or "few", not the place I like to go. My opinion on the topic, is for my family, and I... for the most part. * Having that said though, I have to disagree with the idea it's born out of partisan politics. Pro-lifers are usually religitards; note I didn't say religious, 9 times out of 10 they don't know their religion that well. On the flip side, Pro-choice, is infiltrated with the folks that want partial birth abortion, as well as the conglomerates that want the parts for other things.
* If you ask me, all the abortion debate along with so many others 'knee jerk issues', are strong "Eddy Current", psychological disrupters. They're part of the group of 'playing cards' the Bastards In Charge use to redirect away from, or to a given point. They can always count on it to disrupt.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree religion is the reason they hold that opinion. However the media is the reason they care about it so god damn much. It's like the the obsession with planned parenthood, it's a media creation

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I find this interesting. I also note how the liberal politicos are now 'non labeled', 'non conforming', and want to be identified for I guess the 'meaning behind what they say'. While at the same time, in this new age of no labeling, instead of "Speaker Pelosi", or a host of other terms, she's "Leader Pelosi".

I've noted several instances where they're using the term 'leader', where there are more appropriate formal addresses. It seems oddly like indoctrination to a 'new way', huh?

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

she is a marrano

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

When you say that, do you mean Latino, and that she's simply acting as a 'brown power supremacist', or what exactly? I note that Beto O'rouke, is running around saying how everything is 'fair' for him, as he's got 'white privilege'. When in any race, to admit to something like that, it would almost represent in my mind the guy who ties his 1 arm behind his back in an unfair boxing match against a 'lessor' opponent. If white supremacy is real thing, and we must hold back due to 'privilege', then is Beto not saying he's better? Words, and wordcraft, it's funny how the demon'rats, and the republi-cons all say one thing, yet actions, and even subsequent words go another way.

[–]useless_aether 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

no, the marranos were jews from spain and portugal who were forced to either take up catholicism, leave, or face death by the inquisition back in the middle ages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marrano

“One of the things that we discovered about ourselves is that a very, very long time ago, generations and generations ago, my family consisted of Sephardic Jews,” Ocasio-Cortez said. These are Jews who settled in the Middle East, North Africa and southern Europe after the Jewish diaspora. They were expelled from Spain in 1492.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/10/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-reveals-jewish-ancestry-hanukkah-celebration/

a lot of those expelled joined the sabbateans in turkey, but some teamed up with the order of christ in portugal, who were crypto-templars and owned many ships and became pirates and slavers.

they escaped to the seas from the catholic church and preyed on the ships of the papacy, their enemy. thats why the skull and bones is using the jolly roger. they are templars and pirates.

the marranos, sabbateans and the templars worked together (edit: still are). columbus was one of them, they discovered the americas..

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I feel a little silly, after reading your reply, I realized I've read this before, not on AOC, but Marrono's. Thanks for the links, and clarification.
* In regards to AOC, and being a marrano, I find this very very interesting, and perhaps telling. The woman is so stupid, or appears to be, perhaps by way of deception(pretty young thing sort of needed view by the public), I don't know that she purposely is part of a larger conspiracy.
* I've got no doubt she'll learn, and tow the line well, it's all seemingly about 'In God We Trust' to so many.

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

or appears to be, perhaps by way of deception

i never trust a politician. they are trained actors, liars, worse than lawyers.

they act stupid so noone will think they are smart enough to pull off all the crimes they are doing in secret.

https://thehilltalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/269-huma-clinton-940.png

[–]hennaojisan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

...and voters so I want to give them money and stuff.