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[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Unfortunately, he's probably right.
It happened during the civil rights movement..

[–]Vigte 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Yet if I merely suggest deporting ANYONE, (not EVEN "people might have to die") I'm a rayciss.

How is this not incitement to violence? Can an American in this thread take him to court?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Please listen to this clip for about 5 mins. The guest was one of The Saker's man of the year recipients for honestly and courageously speaking the truth. It's eye opening.

Paul Craig Roberts Interview Yellow Vests Protests, Macron, EU, Brexit, QE.

What he's saying may sound like madness. However, isn't accepting the same abuse without any substantive changes, also madness? BLM has continued for about 5 years with no progress. Peace has tried, and continues to try.

For profit prisons caging a population that is considered by the elites as surplus citizenry, with partial rights. The white population is now even getting 3rd world treatment. Black incarceration rates and sentencing is beyond scandalous! 5% of world population with 25% of the worlds prisoners!?!

MLK's movement was the practical option for the elites, because Malcom X, the black panthers, and others called for direct self-defense. The civil Rights history has been white-washed of the actual violence that forced the limited progress, and even that is being rolled back. Blacks are poorer today than in the 70s. Fact.

I am not advocating for violence. I'm a veteran. I am not a pacifist. However, violence is an option. The police use it all the time. It works.

Revolutions are almost always violent. Some are much more violent than others.

Americans should not accept tyranny of any kind; mental or physical. If violence is necessary, then so be it.

Nonviolent movements are important to provide the elite with a choice.

The propaganda system is relentless. I'm starting to question if we haven't already fallen victim to a collective mental tyranny...

Prowd boys, antifa, blacks, whites, Mexicans, Muslims, Christians, immigrants, Trump supporters, police, libtards, the impoverished.... All desperate for crumbs.

The eites will start shit with the poor, police, middle class and everyone in between.

They want us to fight amongst ourselves. Are you going to help them divide us? Or will you unite and fight the propaganda machine? They win again, if we let them...

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Your answer to the question of have we already fallen victim, is yes. We pick each other apart over nothing, there are more divisive micro groups now than ever.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well I refuse to give up.

[–]Vigte 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I agree the laws need to change - they are too complex and punish people for things that shouldn't be a crime - these people shouldn't be in jail.

I agree that the police are corrupt and have biases that they bring on the job that don't belong there. The hiring practice needs to be revised and the roster trimmed and refilled.

I don't advocate for violence, because history shows us that blood very rarely begets anything but more blood. Just because the police use it effectively at times is not an excuse for untrained violence by the masses.

Revolutions ARE mostly violent - which is why the "cheesy" line of "evolution not revolution" is an actual cornerstone of my philosophy (and probably why I will fail in my attempt).

Propaganda IS relentless, but only because it's being paid for and the scripts are being written. If certain people were not in certain places, writing scripts and cheques, it would stop being effective and ubiquitous.

Everyone is poorer today than they were in the 70's, not just Blacks. And everyone will be poorer tomorrow, than they are today.

Inflation is the key.

PCR is a traitor and a shill -a member of the council for national policy alongside evil garbage like Oliver North, Phyllis Schlafly, Rev. Sun Myung Moon, Erik Prince, Mike Pence, Jerome Corsi, Michael Coffman (6:23), Tim LaHay and so many more.

He may say truths that are useful to know, but his allegiance precludes him from being a positive force (as a person) (in my opinion).

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Keep in mind that Mahatma Gandhi preached nonviolent direct action, but he was not a pacifist.

If you're going to be murdered then you should defend yourself, with a proportionate response.

If you will get assaulted for exercising your rights, then you should appropriately defend yourself. But don't do like the cops do and start shooting people, though, or club women and children. That is crazy shit.

[–]Vigte 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I also agree with all of this - I just think the possibility still exists to use the mind to overcome the problems we face today.

It may not always.

[–]cant_even 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I knew someone would play the "Gandhi" record...

90% of Gandhi's success was who he opposed; the bombed-flat, exhausted, angsty former British "Empire". You know, the one where the "Sun never sets".

If he'd tried that against Hitler, Stalin, Mao or Netanyahu, nobody would have ever heard of him.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you're saying that Gandhi would not have been famous as leader of nonviolent direct action on a more violent regime, then I agree. The British were Savage imperialists, but Gandhi understood the sympathetic consensus of the British citizenry. Gandhi was also from the Brahman caste, and had elite Indian support. Other Indians would have been quickly murdered by the British.

He may still have been a freedom fighter in another regime. I doubt that he would be a badass.