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[–]HeyImSancho[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's funny that I ask point blank for your position,

You want a simple answer for a complicated question? Thats not how real world works, buddy. Or you want to know what i think about all this in general?

Well, it's funny as I agree, you cannot always tell where someone is actually coming from; we all make assumptions. Learning to overcome those makes us a little less douche bag like. So for you, you can lay out admittedly incomplete thoughts, and know 'squarely' where I'm coming from, yet for me to ask you, 'it's not that simple.'.... check, got it, awesome!

In general i have a lot of opinions. Refugees should be accepted but the ones who cant adapt should be send back. There should be some sort of educational program to help them adapt and to explain the differences in cultures to them. They shouldnt be separated from the native population. Country is supposed to make sure that its economy is ready for all those refugees. The demonization of refugees by media hurts the process of adaptation. One they adapted they become very similar to natives in terms of culture. Their future generations become even more similar. And etc.

I've got zero problem with immigrants who want to legally come to the US, or any country that will take them; furthermore, I agree they should adopt the culture at hand in the given country. Yet, that's not what's happening. While Americans are having to pay the real costs of a post 911 world, our very own traitorous government is allowing Muslim women to wear full burkas; while in the very same airports, elderly in wheel chairs are being stripped searched, and hands put down their literal diapers. Is that fair?

Also, and I would like an example of how to accomplish 'a country, or all countries being ready to house, feed, and ultimately create more economy for the refugees; they ain't just coming from Iraq.... Europe is getting loaded up with Sub-Saharan Africans, yet they're calling them 'Syrians' on the MSM.... How does that work?? Why aren't the African countries, the Central American countries, or the Middle Eastern not taking care of their people?

They get US AID, and aid from other countries; why not teach a man to fish, or is a handout the only way??? When does that handout end? Can it be sustained? How many developed people are their in the world, as opposed to poverty? How do you fix this?

That is like half or even less then a half of my opinions on the matter, and its just a short headlines so that they can fit into one paragraph. If i start describing my thought process that led to all of those it will take like a hour or two to make one reply and ill forget some things along the way or lose my thought process somewhere. Thats why i like to answer in short sentences and only to your points.

In regards to the above, in summary, you sound like one of those folks who thinks with their emotions, rather than facts, and the real world effects of not forward thinking. There really is a reason why they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions.... And that's truly because of the people who think only on a whim, and emotion instead of 'will this work in the long term, and what implications will occur?'.

You even state you've got original thoughts, but are too good to be bothered to write them out.

Original as in i've came up with them and they are unique or as in i've just came up with them and they are mine but not necessary unique? Cause i do both. And also i borrow other people opinions. Or borrow other people opinions and complete them myself. What do you want from me? A completely different point of view from what you've already heard? Thats not going to be the case every time.

Again, you throw one off little quiffs; they all kinda seem like, 'please shut'. I mean 'okay'; your intelligence, and eloquence of words is just too overpowering! LMAO

One off quiff responses, that respond to incomplete portions of what I wrote,

Im boiling down each paragraph to what i think is its main point.

Well, I'm doing the same as well; yet I don't think it was till this post that I'm responding too, that you came a little closer to what you represent, but to myself, I see your opinions as,"I want xyz because the mainstream media I watch, and read says I'm a good 'it' when I have this opinion'.... Yet, there's not much factual 'how is it really going to work the way you want, or why you want'...

Case in point, I think in the world, there's only around a billion people that have anything at all, the rest are below the poverty line in all fashions... Yet, people like you, think that those who've learned, created, worked, and struggled should just be inundated with refugees; irregardless of any issues created, and now being noted? I mean fuck, Volvo is wanting to leave Sweden due to it being unsafe; what's your solution? Why isn't anyone with your opinion diligently starting foreign teaching programs to build up people where they live to begin with?

You brought Iraq up like some sort of amateur debater following a guide book on 'boogie terms that shut others down out of fear of being labeled'.

No, i've bought up iraq to make a point that you've just quoted.

LOL, you brought up both, and the thread isn't even about them. You cite the refugees as being from the Middle East, but it's Central America, it's Africa, it's subsaharan africa; I mean where does it stop? I agree help those people, but help them rebuild, or build up their own countries.

I asked how the people there by your own words could be great people, but living in what you describe as uncivilized lands,

Morals are universal and basic moral rules are the same in every culture.

So Saudi Arabia with literally crucifying, stoning, and whipping people bloody with reeds, while forcing their women to be 3rd class citizens has similar morals to my culture? Wow, I never realized this; perhaps you can explain this to me. What of the necklessing done in South Africa? Or the few cultures that permit rape as a means to marriage? What about the cultures that sell their daughters as slaves into marriage? I think it was a Sudanese woman who recently carried the high price on Facebook; she actually sold for a lot of cattle!

and why they cannot rebuild?

Ask yourself two questions: why russia is relatively weak in terms of economy while selling oil to most of the EU? And why russians arent trying to overthrow Putin?

Last I checked, Russians liked Putin; hell I think I like Putin too! Russia is selling oil to Europe as the Middle East 'rewrite', complete with pipelines to cut Russia off, and out, isn't going as planned for the global banking cartels...

As to the portion of your screed I highlighted above in this post regarding criminals? They're never smart? LMAO, how very naive; I mean honestly, you've got to get out of the house a little.

Such a well made argumentation.

Well, it was a decent argument, look at all the thieves, and criminals running the world, have you stopped them? Nope.

are you sure I have no idea?

No. Why would you?

Fuck, you quoted a small portion, and then replied, 'fucking brilliant', but you don't finish your thoughts, as you stated.

it was due to your prior comment, to mine:

Still not getting why should i be ok with someone "taking over" something or where was it implied even a little bit.

My response to anyone reading, was that I made a comment about letting unvetted folks into at least the US, and how when they don't conform, and come in mass, it's not immigration, it's a takeover..... You're response was something along the lines of 'so'..

So at this point, fuck, what's next?

I will say, you're a circle jerking tool; I mean some of this shit you quote, and the manner in which you pull it out of context is just dumb.........pfft