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[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Gab is set up nicely, being built on top of Mastodon. They probably can't be de-platformed at this point, unless Torba is playing shady games under the hood.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Great! I plan on using it for political campaigns in the future, so confidence in its continuation is paramount.

[–]Urkleburkle 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I hope the physical servers and the building they're in are antifa/BLM-proof though. Because at this point anything can happen.

He might want to build a second server farm overseas. Poland, maybe. Just in case.

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    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    🙄

    [–][deleted] 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Gab is back, and stronger than ever before! Literally millions of people are flocking there, which caused the site to go down repeatedly, but it seems like they're recovering. I was able to log in and it works pretty well, but took a while to load.

    We really are making the legacy media irrelevant. I hope this success extends to Saidit soon.

    I'd use a link instead of an image, but I didn't wan'o make yall wait as long as I had to :)

    [–]FediNetizen 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (29 children)

    I've mentioned it before, but Gab has the same problem Parler has, and the same problem Twitter has: It's a walled garden. At the end of the day you're still beholden to the whims of a private company.

    Gab was on the fediverse for a while, but one of their updates broke federation, and they decided not to refederate. I would recommend if you're picking up a new service, that you switch to one that does federate, such as freespeechextremist.com. There are also a variety of hobby, region, or profession-focused servers that you can find an incomplete list of here.

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

    freespeechextremist.com is literally just porn. Would it be correct to assume you dislike Gab because they don't allow porn? That's a plus for me.

    [–]FediNetizen 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

    "literally just porn"

    What is it with being a saidit user and talking out of your ass? Most of you do it. No, FSE isn't "literally just porn".

    The real reason I specifically mentioned FSE is that it's filled with the "special" types that I think Saidit users would probably get along with. I use a different instance, which I'm not mentioning because I don't want Saidit users shitting it up.

    Would it be correct to assume you dislike Gab because they don't allow porn?

    No, I dislike it because it's another right-wing shithole filled with science deniers. That was actually my first fediverse instance, because I joined when they did federate, but left before they stopped because I was just fed up with it.

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

    No, FSE isn't "literally just porn".

    Even though I scrolled through it and every post I saw, other than a single meme, was porn. I'm surprised I didn't get an age confirmation pop-up.

    The real reason I specifically mentioned FSE is that it's filled with the "special" types that I think Saidit users would probably get along with

    You talking about Nazis? Gab has Nazis.

    I use a different instance, which I'm not mentioning because I don't want Saidit users shitting it up.

    Ah, I assume your instance has less porn, then?

    No, I dislike it because it's another right-wing shithole filled with science deniers

    Go cry about it. I don't like 'em either, but unlike some people: I ain't no snowflake. Even the right-wingers are bigger snowflakes than me, considering how being trans is enough to piss 'em off. That applies to Saidit too.

    And if you don't want to be around crazy right-wingers: why are you on Saidit? Wouldn't you fit in more over on Reddit?

    [–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Wouldn't you fit in more over on Reddit?

    Liberals love to come where they don't belong and try and bully everyone into bending to their will. Ideological rapists, to a fault

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yep

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    The real reason I specifically mentioned FSE is that it's filled with the "special" types that I think Saidit users would probably get along with
    

    You talking about Nazis? Gab has Nazis.

    lol lol, good one. stick it to him.

    [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    "science deniers". sounds like me, with my multiple degrees and deep understanding of many field of 'science' will get on just great.

    IFLS and the media climate, vaccine, <insert whatever fucking subject you like> bullshit are like a cancer

    [–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I agree, you would fit right in on Gab.

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Ok coomer

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

    but one of their updates broke federation, and they decided not to refederate

    That's freaking ridiculous and sounds shady as hell. Now no one can properly mirror the site if they get cancelled. But maybe that was the plan all along...

    [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

    Gab's amazingly fast growth reminds me of Parler's. Which happened because it was funded by some super-wealthy who have basically unlimited advertising budgets

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Hey neat, we easily crowdfunded over a million dollars. -Gab

    But sometimes I have to remind myself that Twitter alternatives seem to have a much bigger audience than Reddit alternatives.

    [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah true. I don't know why people like the twitter format more tbh. More sound bite-y quotable snippets I guess.

    I wonder what a forum like saidit would be like if only self posts were allowed. Maybe there'd be a market for that

    [–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

    Gab has been around for a few years now. I think their recent surge is mainly because Parler is down

    [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

    Well they were on CNN like 6 months after they came out. There was some shooter that had previously posted on gab and the news media went nuts about it.

    [–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

    Yeah, I remember that. I think it was the Christchurch shooter? Details are fuzzy.

    Actually, I do remember figures like Milo went to Gab before Parler. So it probably had some money behind it.

    Now that I think about it, even Milo complained about how shitty the Gab users were, lol.

    [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

    Yeah Gab definitely had money behind it just like Parler. They grew way too fast for basically no reason. Just like Twitter did at the start. And smaller more organic sites like this one don't grow nearly as fast. Makes me want to just hire shills to advertise saidit on reddit lol. I wonder how much that actually costs. Like $12/hr, times 10 people, for 24 hours a day, for a month or two? Looks like that'd be about $100-200k.

    That's why people with a million dollars to spare can make their site grow to epic proportions in just months.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

    Like $12/hr, times 10 people, for 24 hours a day, for a month or two? Looks like that'd be about $100-200k.

    I'm sure you could get a much better deal if you outsource it to China. One guy can run a whole bank of shill accounts on separate devices.

    [–]FediNetizen 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    The shill: "Haha, me love Saidit long time! Saidit so cool!"

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Americans scream we prefer saidit!

    [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    Yeah true. But one person can only make so many comments and posts per hour. If you want it to look like a legit 200-500 people are active within the span of an hour, you need at least a dozen real people.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

    A number of us still have reddit accounts even if we don't use them much. You could ask people here to advertise. If that's what you want.

    You bring the reddit people here though and you bring the reddit people problems. Already I've seen maybe 3 far left comments and that's not itself a worrisome number, but.... Where did they come from? u/JasonCarswell and I plan to hogtie one of them, drive them across the border, and make them drink Canadian tequila until they talk. Advanced interrogation techniques. Brutal stuff, but you have fight the Bad Guys.

    [–]jw329 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

    conservatives are just as bad as liberals, conservatives are anti-porn and religious freaks,

    both are communists if you let them get too far right or far left, a balance is needed,

    i prefer libertarians,

    but gab is needed for competition, eventually they'll turned nazi

    what we need a decentralized software where no one can delete anything you write,

    even if i write death threats or pictures of murdering people, that's ultimate free speech!

    [–]madcow-5 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    I'm not anti porn in that it ought to be illegal, but culturally, the celebration of porn has gone way too far.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    It beats having to find porn hidden in the woods.

    [–]madcow-5 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Ideally, I think porn should be regarded as a dirty vice you're supposed to grow out of by your early / mid 20's. It seems like it's gone well beyond that to the point of being celebrated as if everyone whacks off 10x a day and all women ought to do porn. There's no way this is good for society.

    [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    I remember that well. Shows my age.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    You and me both. The younger generations don't always believe me about the porn in the woods.

    [–]enefi 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I don't think I agree with

    eventually they'll turned nazi

    but yeah, everything else is pretty spot on.

    I left Gab after Torba had a fit on Twitter about porn (non stop posting for hours, constantly insulting, even Gab users), how it should be censored everywhere. That's not what I imagine under free speech, I want less content banned/illegal, not more. Sure, if you don't want porn on your platform, just say it's too hard to manage and not worth the risk, you don't have to alienate half your user-base and make yourself look like a nut. He made a few enemies which managed to troll him on Gab so well, he have banned them even though they didn't break ToS. IIRC Gab had issues with free speech when it came to other religions, I believe they banned a few people (muslims?) because of that.

    https://i.ibb.co/JqLgDdZ/gab-porn-censorship-03-merged-lower.jpg

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    i prefer libertarians

    Libertarians are just conservatives who have had their testicles removed.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    porn banned on this site too

    [–]jw329 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    ya, theres tons of censorship as well, not as much as twitter but there is

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Okay coomer.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    ok boomer

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    No, I'm a zoomer.

    [–]VirgilGriff 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    If you're pissing off the ADL you're doing something right: https://i.imgur.com/vj78Yjz.jpg

    And one of their replies: https://i.imgur.com/fSto1M9.png

    One of their other replies points out that they already work with the federal government to prevent illegal content, and that just because the ADL doesn't see it (not that they asked or really care) doesn't mean they aren't doing it.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    The Anti-Defamation League should rebrand to the Anti-American League.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    i did try using gab, they banned me, fuck em

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    For what? Posting porn? That's how a lot of people get banned.

    [–]wristaction 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    I support Gab, I really do. I love Torba's energy. But the fact is that I'm only here right now because I haven't been able to get Gab to load for three days now, presumably because of the server load, and they're just going to do to him what they did to Parler anyway.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Yeah, it'd down most the time, but earlier it was working relatively well. He might get Parler'd, but I've heard the hosting company ain't leftist like Amazon is.

    [–]EvilNick 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I'm looking to see these alternative sites start investing in their own hosting. Then we just have to fight the internet providers themselves blocking them.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah, they should get together, pool money, and make their own server farm specifically for pro-free speech alt-tech. We also need alt-ISPs, especially cooperatives (the ISP I'm using right now is a consumer coop, actually).

    [–]ReSegreto 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    At this point,you can use Gab or setup your own Fediverse node.

    [–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    I'm just wondering, is that screenshot from Gab or from Twitter?

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    It's from Gab, the title says it's from Gab.

    [–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Thanks, for some reason I interpreted that as meaning he was speaking about, ie "on", gab.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Oh, lol.

    [–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    can't log in. time out

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    There's a message on their website now that says they're not only under pressure from increased activity, but it also says they're being attacked. It'll be a while until it becomes stable again.