Resources on shill tactics

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[–]zyxzevn 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

To increase the level of discussion I wrote
How to Investigate the Truth

But the above tactic is only is related to a group of shills.

Next level shilling

Some of the opinion-hater tactics have become different, as we can see on reddit.
They post things that are edgy, or start discussions to raise edgy comments or to start conflicts.
Then complain about it, or complain about the reactions, sometimes using a different login-name.
But they also complain about it on other forums and such.
One goals is to get the site BLACK-listed as racist or anti-jew or anti-Israel.

Laws:
Did you know that some laws in some states forbid to be critical of Israel's politics?
The same is when you are critical of the Covid-19 laws.
And your youtube video can be removed, if you publish science from real doctors or real specialists.
A tactic that was already enforced by the medicine industry on some science journals.

Extreme Left:
The extreme left have their own tactics.
They want to cancel your business, if you are critical of the Black Looting Matters organisation., or when you support Trump.
Or claim that the antifa's terror tactics are like terrorism.

Their choice of target is based on random rage, unless you support them. Just like the Nazi's they pretend to hate.

In that sense, the above shill-tactics list may be outdated.

[–]Extract[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'll add this link to the list.

While it's true the above tactics are not the go-to tactics anymore, they are still often used, and should have people aware of them.

[–]zyxzevn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks. I got a lot more...

Bots and manipulation teams

It may be interesting to some other tactics:

  1. Bots repost a popular item. Then if it does not work within a short time, they delete it. And then post it again.
    Sometimes with the same title, or a title similar to a comment.
    They can keep doing that all day long. Sometimes it is a selection of certain topics.
    Only works on large forum.

  2. Some posters have lots of backing. So they use a network of clickers or bots to quickly improve their place in the forums.
    This is visible by a sudden wave of upvotes.

  3. Some political posts just trigger upvotes due to the title, not due to the content.
    Lately this is about Trump, but it can be any topic with a title that is popular.
    You can see a difference in how the content is not watched or read, while there is still a lot of voting.

  4. Clips taken out of context. Can be anything.
    Taking Trump as example, we an see Trump say something stupid, but in the full context it wasn't.
    In this case you see replies on reddit that are downvoted to oblivion or removed by mods. Saidit has prevented this by removing downvotes and minimal moderation.

Forum sliding

On this forum there is a lot of Forum-sliding.
Usually by people that want to push their opinion into the discussion.
Like: "We never went to the moon"
or: "The jews did this".
On reddit it would be: "It is Trump's fault", etc.
It would be nice if the mods could move such sliding into a separate discussion, so it doesn't disturb the original discussion. With a link under the discussion (See here other discussion on topic).

Keeping people busy

Keeping people busy with discussions, and spend time with nonsense.
I am not sure this is in your list, but it is a general tactic.
It makes you tired and you spend too much time online to deal with all the shit.
Trolls and Shills usually keep repeating the same arguments over and over to exhaust you.
On redit it would be: "But Fauci is a doctor, so he knows better than you."

This is besides all the distraction that we get with cat-pictures and violence and porn.

Intel Tactics

There are also tactics that I found used when studying conspiracy theories around murders and war-crimes.

  1. Intel tactic: Create straw-man conspiracy theory.
    This happens with some topics that involve real corruption and real crimes.
    Instead of a discussion of the real crime, we get a discussion around a topic that is too easy to debunk. Even if it would be true.
    Like the idea of nukes being used at 9/11. Or the theory of space energy-weapons being used.

  2. Intel tactic: Create a patsy or an enemy.
    Like "the Russians did it" or China whoever.
    Usually with no solid evidence, even though they can sometimes provide lists and pictures that do not really tell much.
    It is too hard to check, and it diverts from the people that were internally involved.

  3. Intel tactic: Remove evidence, sometimes "by accident".
    This is often done in the name of National Security. You can see how a lot of Epstein's evidence was to be destroyed.

  4. Intel tactics: Create an alternative heroic theory.
    Without solid evidence for it, an alternative story is created.
    This is done to make it seem that someone made an small error and the team helped to cover it up.
    This is to make it seem OK that you were being lied to.

  5. Intel Tactic: Don't talk about money or resources. We are in Iraq and Afghanistan "to help the people".

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Feel free to just make a separate post with all of those.
Or, even a post for each of them, if you'd like.