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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

there is religious foundation for them and hence are semi-defensible.

Ahh, I see where you are coming from. Imo it's still a stretch to claim that the Talmud is Jewish scripture... I think it's a secondary book that's referenced in synagogue like once a year. No doubt some minority sects/groups are heavily into it. And it's also not completely fair to assume that secular Jews give two shits or know two shits about the religious aspects.

So I'm opposed to any changes unless there's a clear and present legal risk. But having said that here's some ideas for enforcing content policies like this if you have to:

  • clarify saidit policy- racial/ethic stereotyping or generalizations is low pyramid and forbidden (3 warnings then a ban)
  • saidit alters text, "jews" is ninja edited to "(some) jews"
  • someone hands out a scarlet letter to racists so you see them less or never

Ugh I feel dirty even typing it.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Exactly.

I know almost nothing about Jewish culture and the Talmud. But I've been brainwashed enough to know that anti-Semitism is bad and I never questioned that until a few years ago. (Not counting that I already knew most or many Arabs are Semites too, as I dated a Palestinian-Syrian girl in 2003-2004.) And most common folks and Jewish folks have this brainwashing too. That's why I want to avoid folks using "the Jews" generally.

I felt dirty using the worst thing I could think of for comparison. I've never said "the niggers" until I tried to make the substitute comparative point.

I completely understand the hypocrisy of this situation. Preemptively starting the Iraq War was stupid. Preemptively censoring folks on SaidIt is stupid. But the threat is demonstrably real in this case. While I still think preparation is a good thing, we can't prepare for every known and unknown potential threat.

So I'm happy you clarified that "unless there's a clear and present legal risk" there's no need to change. At least that's a clear foundation worth codifying.

While the second two points are funny, I think the first one is just okay, made a little better with my modification:

  • Clarify SaidIt policy: Racial/ethic stereotyping or generalizations, even if not used for name calling, is low pyramid and forbidden (3 warnings then a ban).

There remain problems with this. Who decides what's a stereotype and how, and which are acceptable and which offensive and why? And if a bunch of SJWs land on SaidIt will they then be able to "vote" us out for being offensive?

Again this diverts us.

I don't even care about being offended. There are no laws against offending or being offended. Yet I also like that SaidIt is a classy joint. Cutting down the chaos keeps the quality up.

On this matter I'm only concerned about the future of SaidIt, and taking precautions now about things that may haunt us.

I guess on this count I shall remain haunted by the potential of being haunted.

Meanwhile, I haven't bothered to figure out how to unblock MartinTimothy so all you suckers can deal with him while I go about SaidIt carefree (except for this haunting haunting).

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think the first one is just okay, made a little better with my modification

Yeah your version is better. I've been trying to get to the heart of this thing, and I think this is how it looks. I also think this would fail to pass in a vote of saidditers. And I assume that if someone were to harass/debate you with "dirty Jew" or "another Jew", that that would be prohibited by our existing rules.

But the threat is demonstrably real in this case.

I still don't see this, but maybe we can mitigate this in other ways, like by having 'download/export my data' functionality.

Cutting down the chaos keeps the quality up.

Agreed, but hows the quality on /s/hot ?? It's alright I think. Maybe you are reading every single post still so you have a bias?

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But the threat is demonstrably real in this case.

I still don't see this, but maybe we can mitigate this in other ways, like by having 'download/export my data' functionality.

They are censoring everyone everywhere. Death by a thousand cuts. I think they're ramping up for something much much much worse and testing us as they go. And passing ridiculous laws with force and the brainwashed masses behind them.

I don't know what downloading/exporting would do.

I catch up on hot every 3 days or so with a binge but now that I've lost where I was with this crash I guess I don't have to keep up anymore as it's broken my ties and record of where I was.

The quality is good. But there are those posts. They're not problem presently and maybe never will be. I honestly wouldn't give a shit if there wasn't the great looming threat. Fools gonna fool. And the boots gonna stomp the face of humanity forever.