The SaidIt voting algorithm ranks "hot" & "top" feeds & sorts subsaidits. Is this algorithm public? Can less hot feeds be calculated, perhaps weekly, monthly, and/or interactively, rather than just "Hot Today"? I miss many good posts, have trouble keeping up, & find some bloom later. Comments?

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Are you asking for a feature that sorts by less popular post ranking?

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

No. I'm asking for longer "fade outs" for lack of a better term.

At present a post that gets say (like now), 12 votes (posted 8 hours ago) will hit the top of the hot. Obviously the one with 13 votes is older (1 day ago) and is 4th. By tomorrow or the next day it could be gone. The only other double digit on the list right now has 18 votes (2 days ago) and is literally last, about to disappear off the first page.

A longer "fade" would have those 12, 13, and 18 vote posts higher on weekly and/or monthly lists.

I already know this kind of voting system is inherently problematic. I know these further poolings would likely exacerbate that problem, yet may help my other problems. Hopefully the creme de la creme would rise.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

A longer fade is doable. We have already modified the hot algorithm to be 4x less time sensitive than default Reddit. We could crank it up to 8x or something. If you push it too far though, it just becomes Top.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

One thing I want to make clear. I do not want this to change "hot". I want this to be in addition to "hot".

Monthly seems too long but weekly or biweekly rather than daily seems better.

In fact, I'd also like to see a "extra-hot" or "hot this minute" to help diffuse the "pooling" in addition to the "hot today" and "hot this week".

I don't know if this is a pain in the ass or if it can be simply applied, in new tabs or perhaps in a drop down list not unlike the other list:

  • past hour

  • past 24 hours

  • past week

  • past month

  • past year

Except for maybe:

  • 2x Hot This Minute

  • 4x Hot Today <- current default

  • 8x Hot This Week

  • 16x Hot This Fortnight (maybe)

Is the algorithm easy to share? I'm curious what it looks like.

In the comment's "formatting help" Markdown table can you add a few more rows?

First new row left box (maybe after quoted text):

paragraph 1

paragraph 2

dash

paragraph 3

paragraph 4

First new row right box shows how just a "-" will skip a line:

paragraph 1

paragraph 2

paragraph 3

paragraph 4

Second new row left box:

dashdashdash

Second new row right box shows a division line:

Third new row left box:

hashtagHeader

Second new row right box:

Header

Please change the light yellow to a mid-tone so the light and dark text are both visible (ie. #888888).

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

yes, it's a pain in the ass to add, and I think 'top' is basically what you're after. If anything with a high vote count appears on hot, it will appear on top.

The hot algo: https://github.com/libertysoft3/saidit/blob/c167cc0d48aa1687b3dc19b224e83ad2c3aab8a4/r2/r2/lib/db/_sorts.pyx#L52

https://medium.com/hacking-and-gonzo/how-reddit-ranking-algorithms-work-ef111e33d0d9

I have recorded your 'formatting help' improvement request.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was hoping it would make sense to me, but I'm very grateful for those links. Maybe if I read that great article again. Definitely going in the article.

Definitely no rush on the formatting help.

I guess a top sorted is what I'm after.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This issue with the 'formatting help' box has just been fixed, I crossed it off our to-do list

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This issue has just been fixed, thanks for the bug submission.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What has been fixed?

Also, 2.5 questions:

Did you and /u/d3rr see this https://saidit.net/s/IdeasForSaidIt/comments/1nik/now_that_the_insightful_and_fun_icons_are_side_by/ and what do you think? Y/N/M

As I hoped that might be addressed I wonder if the SaidIt facelift is finished (for now)? It seems like it's been a while since there were GUI updates. I'm certainly in no rush. I was waiting until it was all settled then I might revise (and finish) my Ergonomix CSS, it's instructions, and copypasta to all those subs.

With all that CSS stuff half remembered/half forgotten, and with whatever new stuff I have to apply for the new updates, I might start a whole new design focused CSS (rather than readability and learning CSS) for my priority subs under the /s/GlossedAndProfound umbrella. While a new CSS is not a top priority, good branding will be and thus spills over.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The issues about the 'formatting help' window that you mentioned are what was fixed

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good stuff. I forgot what the old table looked like.

 

There's also this wiki page: https://saidit.net/wiki/commenting, perhaps worth linking. It's rather long, but some of the best ones you might consider adding are:

or _italics_
or __bold__

`inline code text` = inline code text

\ *escape the formatting syntax\ * = *escape the formatting syntax*

##Header
###Header
####Header
#####Header
######Header (after 6 it just starts adding #'s to the front)

double space at end of line = line break
&nbsp; = blank space
&nbsp; + double space = large line space

I would move the * items down to just above the numbered items.

Maybe link to how to make simple [tables] (https://saidit.net/wiki/commenting#wiki_tables)?

Everything else there is just excessive over-explaining without much new to offer.