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[–]SolarEclipse 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

I just hope none of my subs get banned for "misogyny" ay lmao.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

If anything it will be for abusing your mod powers for banning me for my good faith comments.

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    [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    I see 3 posts there by you - all pointing to the propaganda the corporatocracy would have us believe. If you actually looked into it you'd find the truth may be hard to take at first but it's mostly lies and exaggerations. I have no side in the fight other than seeking the truther, no matter how ugly. And this is ugly. Then Venom adds racism to it and makes it uglier - making me wonder if Venom is not actually Jewish trying to make normal skeptics like me look bad.

    I find it odd that /u/Venom has not answered /s/Holocaust/comments/tzh/open_letter_to_sholocaust/

    I suspect Venom banned you for repeating propaganda, which is IMO stupid. It's further stupid that he/she/it did not know there was already a /s/TheHolocaust and if he/she/it only wanted skeptic and/or racist content the new sub should have been called /s/HolocaustSkepticism or /s/TheHolocaustSkepticism and let the posts speak for themselves.

    Unless folks don't want me to, in a few weeks I'll make /s/HolocaustSkepticism unless someone beats me to it.

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      [–]d3rr 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      It looks like you have a point... You can't "coarsely minimize" a genocide in Switzerland.

      [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Well conspiracies exist. I could list a hundred that even mainstream media acknowledges as true. Start with Russiagate, the excuses why Medicare for all won't fly, or the lies for perpetual war and the surveillance state.

      If you don't look into it then you'll never know other perspectives that may make you change your mind.

      I am 48 years old. I only looked into it a few years ago. It was the last "mind-bending" red pill I took. I didn't want to be an "anti-Semite" - even though I well knew about Jewish this and that, having lived in NYC, friends in Montréal and Vancouver, a half Palestinian girlfriend, Jewish cousins and an uncle, etc. I honestly wasn't interested in Nazis or war. Once you look though the logic of the myth falls apart pretty quickly.

      And you learn there are 3 types of holocaust skeptics:

      1) Those who are anti-Semitic. 2) Those who have looked into the actual history and details that don't add up. 3) Those who are both.

      Unfortunately #1 and #3 make it bad for #2 who I'll wager far out number them.

      Your fears are not unfounded, however, if Switzerland wants to drop a boot on SaidIt then we'll have to adapt and maybe even become decentralized somehow sooner than later. If Voat or Phuks get shut down permanently, along with all the other truther, alternative history, and historical revisionism sites, then we may have something serious to be concerned about.

      I am curious what /u/magnora7 and /u/d3rr think about this.

      [–]OmegaUser296 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      Hey I uhhh sort of made that sub minutes before seeing this. Not cause I am one of those skeptics but just because I saw your (other post)[https://saidit.net/s/Holocaust/comments/tzh/open_letter_to_sholocaust/] and wanted to do it.

      Ironically had the same name and all as the one you wanted to make.

      Since I'm not actually one of the Holocaust skeptics and was just helping the situation would you like to help moderate it? You'd be in charge of most of the stuff and I'd just be there for general moderation.

      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      Thanks for making the sub.

      I'm honored and grateful for the invite. I will accept. If you like I can make a banner and/or apply my CSS - after I get a new monitor and do graphics again. (Meanwhile I'm pushing a paint brush around.)

      I'm far from an expert on the matter but you really don't need to be in order to see it's a scam - starting with the perpetual reparations thing that doesn't apply to all the other people in the camps - the 50 Holocaust museums on a continent across the ocean - yet there are no Native American museums in Europe, the utter impracticality of allegedly gassing and burning corpses, little mention of it before the 1970s, etc. etc. etc. - And then they do worse to the Palestinians. None of it makes sense under scrutiny.

      Anyway, I won't be an active moderator unless I stabilize, and I that may never happen. I will peak in on things now and then but nothing timely nor reliably. If anyone includes my /u/username, and if my messages aren't piled up I'll get to it ASAP. Otherwise I'm working on 2 big projects (/s/BittersweetSeeds and /s/Trutherism101), hope to soon delve into /s/SaidItBots so I can spend less time surf-posting (and being distracted by all the wonders), and I aim to finish categorizing all the subs on SaidIt, only to upkeep them on occasion. I've only started with a lot to get through. https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/wiki/multisubs Eventually I'll finish and start promoting the hell out of multi-subs for people to learn how to make themselves or they may help curate and manage the lists or just use them as an easier way to search for topical or related content. At that point I intend to let the info come to me with multisubs and bots configured - including the subs I'm "supposed" to moderate. (In my opinion the entire SaidIt community should moderate itself. At least now while it's small. In the future I'd like to see a /s/SaidItConflicts for public resolutions, though it may also be abused if not moderated. I try to think outside the box.) Of course, at that point I actually hope to be very busy with the 2 first projects.

      I've noticed you have a level head and wisdom, of what I've seen. Feel free to look at my subs and ask to be co-mod on some if you like. Many are not mine though and I can pass on the request, as I'm joined only for now. I have a lot of graphics and some CSS to finish on those redecoration jobs before I'll un-mod myself from them.

      [–]OmegaUser296 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      I'll send the Moderation invite since I forgot to do that already.

      I personally don't lean one way or the other with the Holocaust's existence I acknowledge it happened but as you state the facts are fickle. I personally believe it happened but not at the magnitude that people state. No need to try and convince me as I won't listen to it as the Holocaust never happening is one theory I refuse to look into.

      Go ahead and apply your CSS and make a Banner go ahead.

      I have the sub set to be approved since it is a highly controversial topic so all posts/comments on it must be approved I'll try to stay upto date on that.


      Subs that you moderate that I'd wanna help moderate:

      /s/Voting_IsARiggedJoke/ - We all know shit can be rigged and people need to learn voting for elections isn't beyond rigging.

      /s/canada - I am in fact Canadian (Insert Maple Syrup joke here) and it seems pretty conservative which fits my politics pretty well. Plus I need a place to post my Justin Trudeau Memes. Plus it seems the other moderators of it are active but not doing much with the sub so I'd try to fill in and help where needed.


      Edit: Formatting

      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      You're invited.

      It really depends what you mean by "happened". Lots of stuff happened. Lots of stuff was claimed. Lots of stuff resulted.

      9/11 happened. There are lots of details about it that are fiction and a lot that are just incorrect. It's all very confusing and obscured and that's how they want it. Plausible deniability. Or in this case, not denial but plausible actuality.

      May I ask why you refuse to look into it? By approving the submissions (I didn't know about that bit) you will inevitably be studying it.

      When looking at the material, for the most part the skeptical content should be mostly racist free. For me it was initially difficult not to assume the people were all racist. Far from it. However there are some that insist on being vulgar and tainting their information. A racist can still be correct with information. I'm an atheist but still know religious folks can still be correct with aspects of history too.

      I'd like to propose a rule for the /s/HolocaustSkepticism sub:
      No racism or anti-Semitism allowed. Posted external content with racism may be permitted if their information is subjectively good (we can't help that their attitude stinks), but try to find better sources on the same info, and only so much will be tollerated. Clarity is paramount so be specific when referring to Jews and/or the state of Israel and/or Zionists. Moderators may insist that you modify your text accordingly to be specific.

      I'd also like to include some clarification statements:
      Israel is a state, and it's not anti-Semitic to criticize it, like any other state, for war crimes and crimes against humanity, among other things, including their Jewish supremacist and apartheid policies.
      Jewish people are just part of the sheeple flock of humanity, and they are as deceived, manipulated, exploited, and victimized just as any other community can be, and they, like all other sheeple are guilty of not waking up to the ruling class exploitation. Not all Jews share the same values or heritage and to lump them together is wrong. Many do not buy the Holocaust or 9/11 narratives. Many feel like they are the chosen race. Many don't care about any of this.
      Zionism is an evil ideology bent on full spectrum dominance and enslavement of humanity by any and all means that has infiltrated and intermixed with Royalty, Freemasonry, NeoLibralism/NeoConservativism, Wahhabism, all governments, the military industrial complex, Wall Street, and Hollywood in a authoritarian globalist technocracy-corporatocracy. Zionists include Jews, Muslims, Christians, Catholics, and other faiths, but they confuse this fact by using the brainwashed Jewish population as human shields and claiming that anti-Zionist views are anti-Jewish or anti-Semitic when that's far from true.

      This first draft might be edited down. But that's the sentiment.

      We could add this section or leave it out, up to you...
      See also:
      /s/AlternativeHistory
      /s/askhistorians
      /s/economics
      /s/EconomicsTheory
      /s/fakehistoryporn
      /s/FakeNews
      /s/history
      /s/HistoryVideos
      /s/Holocaust
      /s/Israel
      /s/Jews
      /s/Judaism
      /s/Justice_v_Injustice
      /s/propaganda
      /s/PsyOps
      /s/Race_DivisionByElites
      /s/Religion
      /s/TheHolocaust
      /s/USIsrael

      Eventually it would be nice to start wiki pages too. I would start with the legalities of questioning a story that we are not allowed to question, what regions have 1) made it illegal, and 2) actually persecute folks, and 3) how vigorously. If you can't question it then what are they hiding?

      Humour may be a tricky thing to moderate. A joke about 9/11 may be tasteless, but it's not illegal, nor does it have a potential racist angle. But often the jokes are not even aimed at the alleged victims, but rather aims at the absurdity of the propaganda, or of the believers of one story or another, or the government and/or media.

      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      So I added a bunch of rules that you can edit down as you see fit. If you don't I will eventually as it's wordy and excessive, but better to start safer than sorry. As far as the banner goes I'll have to think on it. Something simple, low key, and classy - not sensational. Feel free to suggest anything that comes to mind.

      https://saidit.net/s/HolocaustSkepticism/about/edit/

      [–]OmegaUser296 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I'll go edit the rules as I see fit, might out right change a few things so reviewing them tomorrow or something may be best.

      [–]SolarEclipse 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      good faith

      Yeah, right.

      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      You don't think so?

      Ask /u/magnora7 and /u/d3rr what they think of mods who abuse their power.

      While we're at it I demand a resolution on my banishment on good faith posts in /s/Incel - even though I won't be visiting there again.

      Further, I'd like you to check on /u/old getting banished from /s/Holocaust for posting the official narrative stuff in what appears to be good faith if naive.

      [–]SolarEclipse 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Ask /u/magnora7 and /u/d3rr what they think of mods who abuse their power.

      Your definition of "abuse" is warped.

      While we're at it I demand a resolution on my banishment on good faith posts in /s/Incels

      Feel free to message u/austin by sending a message to the moderation team.

      And btw, this isn't the place to discuss it.

      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Your definition of "abuse" is warped.

      Banned for a good faith comment is not a warped definition of abuse of power.

      I had messaged the moderator. Where would you like to have this discussion? Somewhere forgettable? Again?