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[–]sawboss 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Not in the current environment of political tribalism.

I often wonder, "why the Jews?" I've done some reading which suggests certain reasons, but to my mind it all amounts to envy. I've never found anything which would convince me of the tired old theory that a small cabal of Jews run everything behind the scenes. (It might as well be Alex Jones' lizard-men.) People just seem unwilling to give up the notion that somehow, more than any other ethnic group, Jews are superlatively loyal to each other over any other.

All I can suggest is when you see such propaganda and know it to be false, just do some digging and demonstrate why it's a false narrative. As we've seen, it's not even that hard to do usually. The false assumptions come from emotion, usually resting on a foundation of other assumptions which are specious at best.

And I'm tired of it. Honest to God I can't even tell you how shameful and stupid it all looks to me. Even 20 years ago this kind of shit was so distant from mainstream thought that even bringing it up would get you laughed out of the room, or shunned. Now though, we see it coming from both "right" and "left" (as in the Women's March scandal). Why? It's sickening.

[–]AschTheConjurer 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

My Phillipino flatmate and I decided to look into why antisemitism is a thing as well, about 2 months back, because as an Asian he quite literally has no fucking idea about any of it. I was especially curious, too because despite not being jewish (my mum did one of those 23-and-Me type DNA test things, results were "100% British/Anglo Saxon" according to her) I've actually been on the receiving end of a stereotypical skinhead's antisemitism because of my name, which is a bastardized version of the Hebrew word for 'Priest', and this guy used that as an excuse to home-invade me and my partner-at-the-time in order to extort our 'secret jew wealth' out of us. He didn't make it past the front door, thankfully - we'd been in similar situations before and were paranoia-prepared for this sort of thing.

Anyway, tangent aside: after looking into it for a couple hours, all we could find was, essentially, that people originally hated Jews because they "killed Jesus". It seems like pretty much all the conspiracy theories and all the antisemitism that's come ever since then has, at it's root, been a matter of:

  1. But.. we've always hated the Jews. That's just how it is.
  2. People making excuses for their words and actions after the fact, in order to retroactively justify their behaviour.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

people originally hated Jews because they "killed Jesus"

What, Jesus "King of the Jews" of Nazareth, a Jew Himself? Well, at least it makes more sense than the other explanations.

[–]AschTheConjurer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I hadn't even thought about that. I had the airquotes there solely because I have huge skepticism towards all religions and the stories they created.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, they definitely killed Jesus. That's the consensus of historians using sources other than the Abrahamic texts. Whether Jesus was anything more than a very wise philosopher is what's in question (and many would say that it was never in doubt, but whether they say "yes" or "no" is hard to predict).