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[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Let's assume that I'm a shill

Yes. We should.
I do.

[–]Zombi 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

So, if someone just so happens to have an opinion that is counter to yours, they're a shill? You just dismiss everything they say no matter what?

/u/wizzwizz4 and I seem to share a lot of the same stances, am I a shill too? Is everyone who doesn't believe the jews run everything a paid for shill? You realize that is an INSANE amount of money to pay merely to try and convince you to believe the "globalist narrative", right?

When people have your beliefs there is ZERO room for discourse. There is ZERO room for the pyramid of debate and it goes against everything this site stands for. You've ALREADY made up your mind and your position, no matter how much contrary (factual) evidence is provided, will never change.

You must understand how it's nearly impossible to have a debate with someone like you due to this, right? I'm not going to try to convince you of anything, but I do want to say that you're stunting your own growth as a person by being this way.

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Thanks for this. I was beginning to think I was going crazy; it's good to know I'm not the only one in the world outside my social circle with approximately this set of views.

To give /u/Tom_Bombadil credit, he is acting as a rational actor would if they had a ridiculously high certainty of everything they believe in (I'm talking tens of nines here). The amount of evidence required to get to such a point, however, is astronomical – if every single Jewish person in the world individually walked up to him and promised him that they were part of a conspiracy to take over the world, then it might be enough evidence to be that certain… but he clearly doesn't have that much evidence or we'd all be convinced by now.

The only solutions that I can think of are:

  • He determined this certainty before he became an approximately rational actor, and so should re-evaluate these beliefs in light of this incongruity.
  • He isn't an approximately rational actor.
  • This is one of his axioms; he's assigned a probability of 1 to it and literally infinite evidence is required to convince him otherwise.

I've probably missed something here; if I've made a faulty assumption or a faulty leap in thought please let me know.

[–]AschTheConjurer 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Oh, you're not crazy. Just scrolling down these comments and looking at Bombadil's comments - in context, no less - paints him as either a troll or a genuine anti-semite conspiracist. Poe's Law makes it impossible to tell which it is.

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Wow. This is a bit off-topic, but feeling the weight off my shoulders from reading these comments… I cannot imagine how hard actual, proper gaslighting is to bear, but I've a new-found respect for people who've dealt with that kind of abuse.

[–]AschTheConjurer 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

At the risk of opening up a whole new can of bees - I think gaslighting is essentially the reason that SJW politics are so pervasive and are lent so much power nowadays, to the point its reached a sort of fascist censorship level:

The sheer volume of hate poured out wholesale against anything not far-left nowadays could drive anyone who hears it too much to start convincing themselves that the propaganda might be right.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's divide and conquer.

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Hate for far left (R U a Communist‽). Hate for far right (R U a Nazi‽). Incredulity when someone isn't either. I'm glad I can keep US politics at armchair's distance!

[–]AschTheConjurer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah we don't really have the luxury of doing that after Christchurch, the 'Muricans fucking kicked the door in and started overloading us with their "with us or against us" stuff

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

:-/

People who exploit others' misfortune for their own personal profit are not people I like.