Suggestion: Endorse http://infogalactic.com/ as the approved wiki of SaidIt

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[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

Yes, it was made into an issue.

But why did Obama do that in the first place? It just makes no sense.

You never explained what /e/ was for.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (28 children)

But why did Obama do that in the first place?

Because there was no penalty, it was the right thing to do, and it frees up budget?

/e/domain.tld would permit federation, and so decentralisation. I thought that was clear.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

"Right thing to do" Really? Pshaw. America never does that. It's part of the New World Order globalist Zionist agenda shit.

Again, dude. You suck at communicating.

I had to look up TLD = Top Level Domain.

I still don't know why the /e/ is there.

Does it stand for "external"?

It's still not clear.

If everything on SaidIt is either /s/something or /u/something then everything else is "foreign", unless you have a white list of things like /r/Redditlink or /wp/Wikipedialink

Or you could also make a federation white-list of all the other SaidIt satellites to make it shorter.

Examples of white-list options:

http://SaidIt.net/s/Sex = sub

http://SaidIt.net/u/AssTroll = user

http://SaidIt.net/r/WatchRedditDie = Reddit sub

http://SaidIt.net/wp/Corruption = Wikipedia article

http://SaidIt.net/wizz4/s/Geekery = white-listed friendly satellite and link, short for http://wizz4.net/s/Geekery, yet accessed via SaidIt.net

http://SaidIt.net/wizz4/linkylink = white-listed friendly satellite and link, short for http://wizz4.net/linkylink

and everything else:

http://SaidIt.net/Google.com = foreign link

http://SaidIt.net/anythingyouputhere = foreign link

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

The "everything else" part is an issue there; it would be slow and not foolproof to determine whether a particular value for anythingyouputthere is an external thing. Though… maybe. Maybe it could be the default option, which wouldn't lag Saidit out too much on 404s caused by typo'd URLs.

I don't know. Is https://saidit.net/jasoniscool.org/s/flowerarranging so much of an improvement over https://saidit.net/e/jasoniscool.org/s/flowerarranging? It's two characters shorter, and I'm not a good judge of aesthetics, but it seems somehow less neat. I'm not sure.

If you're asking about the choice of "e", it was mostly arbitrary. /r/ was used by Reddit, /s/ by Saidit and /t/ by notabug (iirc) and I assume Voat uses /v/. /f/ might be a more sensible option, for "federated".

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

So skip the everything else and have a white list of shortcuts only.

Why would you have

https://saidit.net/e/jasoniscool.org/s/flowerarranging

When you could have

https://saidit.net/jic/flowerarranging

E is fine, for external. X might be cooler. Or you could use a special character.

[[:LV:Latvian Link]] on Wikipedia would say "LV:Latvian Link" and link to the Latvian Wikipedia.

[[LV:Latvian Link]] on Wikipedia would say "Latvian Link" and link to the Latvian Wikipedia without letting anyone know.

I suspect a ":" would mess up the URL but a "~" is good for signing your name or a quote or source.

Love,

~ JasonIsCool

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

But then what Saidit could federate with would be arbitrarily restricted by the admins. You couldn't start up your own site, and immediately be able to access Saidit completely and totally from there, and vice versa.

That's the thing. If jasoniscool.org was brand new, you couldn't start using it straight away. You'd need approval. And what if M7D3 decided that they didn't like you any more? Perhaps your flower arranging crossed some line? You'd practically be excluded from the entire network of federated sites by default, unless you stuck with your saidit.net account.

And what if saidit.net started serving adverts? etc.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

Sorry to jump into your thread here, but a federated said it where saidit has power over other instances is not the business.

SaidIt.net would only be able to block other instances from interacting with it, but not other instances from interacting with each other.

Right? I think that's how it's supposed to work.

[–]wizzwizz4 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

That is how it's supposed to work.

But, at first at least, saidit.net would be the biggest instance around. If people couldn't spin up their own instance and connect it to Saidit, it would be as hard to get people on that instance as it was to get people on Saidit in the first place – if not more so, since there wouldn't really be an incentive to move somewhere where there's a smaller community. And that defeats the whole point of decentralisation, effectively locking everybody to saidit.net.

So every site needs to support federating to every other site by default. The short-name whitelist thing is cool, and a blacklist is equally important, but the "default" has to be no less than "full access to content and ability to post".

(cc: /u/JasonCarswell)

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

So every site needs to support federating to every other site by default.

the "default" has to be no less than "full access to content and ability to post".

Agreed. I'd even be into taking one step further, and having a way for other instances to import SaidIt data/catch up on federated history, so that a community could move to their own instance and not be starting from scratch.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

If the federation is implemented well, I don't think this would be necessary; it would show up on the listings regardless of where it was from.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I believe ww was way off and d3rr has it correct.

I'm still a newb, but I understand it more like friendship circles. You can break ties with someone and still both share friends. But if your friends find out what you're up to, like childporn, then they will tell their friends too and so on. I don't know how these white and black lists are shared.

Federated sites are free to be good bad and ugly using the same protocols, but they are not necessarily connected.

That's my take away, without actually delving.