Suggestion: Endorse http://infogalactic.com/ as the approved wiki of SaidIt

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[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

The whole point of decentralisation is that anyone can set a new Saidit up and it'll almost seamlessly connect to the others, so there's no reliance on a central entity like m7d3. How would this scale to, e.g. wizzwizz4sepicawesomesaiditclone.freedomains.website?

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (33 children)

You gotta break down the components of that example address for me. What does what and why?

Without knowing that...

How about, just as there are my examples, there could be more alternatives:

https://saidit.net/org/ = with home / other content

https://saidit.org/net/  

https://wizz4.net/wizz4/ = wizz4's home / referencing wizz4's content

https://saidit.org/wizz4.net/ = saidit.org looking at wizz4.net stuff

https://wizz4.net/saidit.net/s/Sex = wizz4 looking at saidit.net/s/Sex

https://Trutherism101.com/wizz4/s/Porn = Trutherism101.com looking at wizz4's Porn

I see how it begins to get a little long.

If everyone used a dot net then we could shave that off. But if "they" decide to shut down all dotnet sites then there might be a problem. Or we could go ZeroNet or onion, or have them as backup. Obama gave the domains to the United Nations for some reason, not in America's interests. Still don't know if that's a good or bad thing. Doubt it's for the best.

I was thinking that if we all got "saidit" variants we could shorten them. But that would also be like a target that could be censored.

https://saiditwizz4.net/ = wizz4

https://saiditd3rr.net/ = d3rr

https://saiditJasonCarswell.net/ = AssTroll

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

Hmm… Maybe saidit.net/e/domainname.tld could be implemented and would always work, but then the site hosts could add shorter versions like saidit.net/org if they wanted to.

That seems to satisfy both requirements: true decentralisation and usability.

Obama gave the domains to the United Nations for some reason, not in America's interests.

Nitpick: Nobody ever owned the domains, except by consensus. Anyone has always been able to run their own DNS server where secretmilitarywebsite.gov points to the 4chan servers, and with a little configuring you can teach any computer to treat that DNS server as an authority for the .gov TLD.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

You never explained what /e/ was for.

Don't nitpick at me. https://thepoliticalinsider.com/icann-control-un/

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

Yeah, that article's completely blowing ICANN's influence out of proportion. The most influence they've truly got is IP addresses, but you can get those easily in several other ways without needing ICANN's approval.

It looks like they're putting political spin on a non-issue because they don't like Obama. For a start, they're conflating "internet" and "web" so heavily it isn't even funny… Why are we talking about this, this isn't relevant.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

Yes, it was made into an issue.

But why did Obama do that in the first place? It just makes no sense.

You never explained what /e/ was for.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (28 children)

But why did Obama do that in the first place?

Because there was no penalty, it was the right thing to do, and it frees up budget?

/e/domain.tld would permit federation, and so decentralisation. I thought that was clear.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

"Right thing to do" Really? Pshaw. America never does that. It's part of the New World Order globalist Zionist agenda shit.

Again, dude. You suck at communicating.

I had to look up TLD = Top Level Domain.

I still don't know why the /e/ is there.

Does it stand for "external"?

It's still not clear.

If everything on SaidIt is either /s/something or /u/something then everything else is "foreign", unless you have a white list of things like /r/Redditlink or /wp/Wikipedialink

Or you could also make a federation white-list of all the other SaidIt satellites to make it shorter.

Examples of white-list options:

http://SaidIt.net/s/Sex = sub

http://SaidIt.net/u/AssTroll = user

http://SaidIt.net/r/WatchRedditDie = Reddit sub

http://SaidIt.net/wp/Corruption = Wikipedia article

http://SaidIt.net/wizz4/s/Geekery = white-listed friendly satellite and link, short for http://wizz4.net/s/Geekery, yet accessed via SaidIt.net

http://SaidIt.net/wizz4/linkylink = white-listed friendly satellite and link, short for http://wizz4.net/linkylink

and everything else:

http://SaidIt.net/Google.com = foreign link

http://SaidIt.net/anythingyouputhere = foreign link

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

The "everything else" part is an issue there; it would be slow and not foolproof to determine whether a particular value for anythingyouputthere is an external thing. Though… maybe. Maybe it could be the default option, which wouldn't lag Saidit out too much on 404s caused by typo'd URLs.

I don't know. Is https://saidit.net/jasoniscool.org/s/flowerarranging so much of an improvement over https://saidit.net/e/jasoniscool.org/s/flowerarranging? It's two characters shorter, and I'm not a good judge of aesthetics, but it seems somehow less neat. I'm not sure.

If you're asking about the choice of "e", it was mostly arbitrary. /r/ was used by Reddit, /s/ by Saidit and /t/ by notabug (iirc) and I assume Voat uses /v/. /f/ might be a more sensible option, for "federated".

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

So skip the everything else and have a white list of shortcuts only.

Why would you have

https://saidit.net/e/jasoniscool.org/s/flowerarranging

When you could have

https://saidit.net/jic/flowerarranging

E is fine, for external. X might be cooler. Or you could use a special character.

[[:LV:Latvian Link]] on Wikipedia would say "LV:Latvian Link" and link to the Latvian Wikipedia.

[[LV:Latvian Link]] on Wikipedia would say "Latvian Link" and link to the Latvian Wikipedia without letting anyone know.

I suspect a ":" would mess up the URL but a "~" is good for signing your name or a quote or source.

Love,

~ JasonIsCool