Issue regarding the pornographic rule

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[–]magnora7 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

It should be allowed on the grounds that the sub moderator ensures the content remains within the 18+ range.

I don't want to spend all day keeping track of this and looking at porn, or keeping track of mods who have to do this. Also there is plenty of porn elsewhere on the internet. The internet is like half porn. Saidit is fine without it. It doesn't add anything valuable to the community, and in fact detracts in many ways.

It also makes perfect sense to not allow porn because it can easily be abused as an entry point to cause federal agencies to gain access to saidit, or shut down saidit. It is a tactical decision.

There are plenty of other sites that will cater to your porn needs, but saidit is not one of them.

[–]HorseMeat[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

I guess, but technically they could shut down the site for a bunch of other reasons. All it takes is one popular video posted on WPD 2.0, then BOOM! I think that's why a lot of sites are cautious about violence/gore in general. It's similar to porn in that aspect.

Though I understand Saidit probably won't change its stance on this. I created the post in the off chance that I could actually influence a change.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

All it takes is one popular video posted on WPD 2.0, then BOOM!

Such as? I don't think that's true at all.

Sorry the porn policy is pretty set-in-stone at this point, you are correct

[–]HorseMeat[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

The New Zealand Shooting. The government pushed hard to get that removed from as much sites as possible. Even Liveleak was forced to remove it to avoid being censored.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

The government pushed hard to get that removed from as much sites as possible.

Not in the US, where our servers are. And we might soon move them to switzerland or norway or something, which is even more safe

[–]HorseMeat[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Does it matter where the servers are? Governments/ISPs can sadly censor stuff without having direct access to the servers. Being blocked in certain countries is not ideal for any site.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Yes it definitely matters. It's very hard for them to shut down a server in switzerland, they have very intense privacy laws and the swiss government doesn't let the US government or other governments do stuff willy-nilly to data hosted physically in their country

[–]HorseMeat[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

That's very interesting actually! That adds one more point to the list of why Switzerland is ahead of other countries.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Yeah it does. It's where the elite hide all their money so it makes sense it'd have super-strict and unbreakable security laws, haha.

Also Iceland was another good alternative, they take data security seriously and you know the country is in the hands of their people because they just had a revolution to re-write their constitution in 2009. But the servers there are 5-10x as expensive as Norway and Switzerland, so it's not a competitive option unfortunately.

[–]HorseMeat[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Switzerland it is then. I don't think you really even need to consider the alternatives if you already know you are guaranteed reliably.