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[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Why would IMDB have or need or want a "free-speech platform"? Apples and oranges.

Votes are still votes and whether its simple or complex it can be politicized.

I don't see what the Vaxxed votes have to do with the price of tea in China.

Vaxxed: From Cover-Up to Catastrophe (2016) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5562652/ 5.5 / 10 from 3,686 votes.

I bet some are sock puppets. I bet some are brainwashed sheeple. With all the honest votes I bet there are A LOT of 1 star votes who haven't even seen it.

I've seen censorship on the Amazon owned IMDb. I used to read a lot of stuff about the movies I watched. Now I don't watch movies much anymore and certainly don't read IMDb when I have more interesting stuff on SaidIt.

IMDb is full of aliases too.

I don't know what your point is.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You had brought up the IMDb voting format and stated that it wasn't broken with it's ratings.

Your follow-up indicates that IMDb has shill vulnerabilities, and suggest that they are likely exploited.

Having acknowledged this; why would we want to expose SaidIt to these same voting vulnerabilities?

These vulnerabilities do not exist with the current system.

We need to remain advocates for maximally resilient submission, commenting, and voting structures.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

SaidIt already has the same exact vulnerabilities, only different in the tallies.

Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist.

If anything getting better quality information about the voting process will expose infiltration.

If you see a bunch of 1/10 votes then you know it either sucked or a group is trying to game the system. Knowing that much at least then we can determine ways to solve that. Not knowing may allow unkown problems to fester.

We need to remain advocates for maximally resilient submission, commenting, voting structures, improving the site, and finding new and better ways to be transparent with information and statistics to better defend ourselves and provide quality experience and content.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

SaidIt already has the same exact vulnerabilities, only different in the tallies.

?

If you see a bunch of 1/10 votes then you know it either sucked or a group is trying to game the system. Knowing that much at least then we can determine ways to solve that. Not knowing may allow unkown problems to fester.

These are contradictory statements.

There are obvious differences.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Prove it.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You've already pointed out the evidence.

If you see a bunch of 1/10 votes then you know it either sucked or a group is trying to game the system. Knowing that much at least then we can determine ways to solve that. Not knowing may allow unkown problems to fester.

The we don't have to deal with 1/10 voting shills. There's no reason to consider solutions to this problem. I've never heard of any group effectively splicing this problem.

This is a problem that currently doesn't exist at SaidIt.

Why would we want to invite this obvious problem into the forum?

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's not proof.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Jason. It's evidence. By your own admission.

It is proof of what will happen if we d Change to the point system.

This is folly. Let it go bro.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Evidence is not proof. Nothing is proven.

Your certainty is delusional.

You want last word go for it. Doesn't make you right. You and wizz are the same.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Something.