Is there a decent way to reduce political carpet-bombing?

submitted by anescient from self.SaidIt

There are a few users who submit shitloads of super political noise to not-political subs e.g. s/videos. I mean shitloads; on the s/videos hot list right now 13 of the top 20 posts are the same shit from the same asshole. Other posts are drowned out, and I'd have to unsubscribe the whole sub to mute one user.

This is shitty, but I don't know how to counter it without doing something way shittier like banning people.

Limit posts-per-day-per-sub, maybe?

The ability to hide certain users' posts?

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[–]happysmash27 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Sort by new and upvote the less political posts.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Adding to the community by posting your own videos helps, as well.

[–]hennaojisan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Tom, sorry I left your name out of the list below but now have edited it in. All of you deserve praise for getting this site going like gangbusters.

[–]hennaojisan 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I think there is not a way to block a user yet but the software is still being worked on. Ask d3r3. I forgot his complete name but he's often in the chat window. He's the software guy for Saidit so maybe he can implement it. Or you can message Magnora7, Tom_Bombadil, or useless_aether and I'm sure they'll get back to you.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Yep block user and block sub is on our list.

[–]anescient[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What is blocking a sub? Isn't that just "unsubscribe"?

[–]hennaojisan 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even if you're not subscribed to a sub it can still show up in HOT or NEW, so you can block anything submitted to that sub.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's a good point... Blocking a sub will be for stuff in /s/all or /s/home which is not subscription based.

[–]Sylexis 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Curious, what software are u guys using for this? I just figured someone whipped up a clone design of reddit. Is there a framework for making reddit-like sites?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is Reddit's own code from 2015 or so. Every other Reddit alternative is using a different code base.

So one could make a site with this codebase, or there are 2-3 others. The Raddle code is called postmill and poal and phuks codebase is called Throat.

[–]Sylexis 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"phuks codebase is called Throat"

First of all reading that made me laughed. Also didn't know about Phuks.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Voat used to be open source but now they're pulling a Reddit.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Those kinds of things are things you could post in GitHub Issues for the community to work on. Heck, you could manage everything in GitHub Issues, using a separate, private repository for security vulnerabilities and migrating issues to the public repo once they're sorted / no longer confidential.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's a good idea man, I can at least post issues for everything we've said we're gonna do. Alright I'll do it.

[–]HorseMeat 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Apparently there's a fully working port of RES for Saidit. For now you can use that to block out the user's post.

[–]SecretlyHistoric 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not sure if a limit of post per day per sub would work well. Each sub would need to be able to decide how much is too much.

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

personally i dont mind if i am limited to x posts per hour in a sub as much as limited to write replies to comments to one every ten minutes. that just kills it for me.

[–]SecretlyHistoric 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

One every ten minutes? Wow. Total mood killer. The main reason I don't think a time limit on posting would work is that there are some subs with only 1 or 2 people actively posting, with others just commenting. I only get an hour or so free time with my current schedule, so I'd rather post a bunch in that hour, and check on it the next day. Not all people are that busy though, so perhaps it would work well.

[–]fred_red_beans 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If you want a sub that has links to videos that aren't political, then why don't you start one?

Calling a fellow saiditor an asshole for posting content you don't like is the lowest part of the pyramid of debate.

[–]wizzwizz4 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Would "extremely impolite mass-promoter of low-quality content" be a better description, then? It's less rude and more specific.

[–]fred_red_beans 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think "low-quality content" can be subjective. There's content on saidit I don't care to interact with, so I don't. I do think there are limits certainly, such as spam/malicious web sites, abusive/threatening language, and stalking or trolling, but I don't see that going on at s/videos. Furthermore, s/videos doesn't have any guidelines on the type of content to be posted to that sub, only the name videos. Although, it does not look like s/videos currently has a mod. Again, it would seem logical to me for a user to just not interact with content they don't want to and/or start a sub for content they want to attract.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Correct on all counts. It's totally subjective, unless we start holding linked content culpable to the Pyramid of Debate. (… actually, should we do that?)

Though I still wouldn't call spamming clickbaity videos to be "politely sharing high-quality content".