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[–]brickfrog 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

Just asked a similar question in a different thread, for what it's worth /u/magnora7 has stated that saidit is vulnerable to DMCA notices. Also seems both hosting and admins are in the U.S.

https://saidit.net/s/piracy/comments/g6w/sharing_links/rv8

https://saidit.net/s/piracy/comments/g6w/sharing_links/rvn

Based on the current info it seems like saidit will have the same issues Reddit has with DMCA, copyright trolls, etc.

[–]magnora7 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

We might move the server abroad, I'm not against the idea. It's just that I don't know if it actually would offer any more protection when both the mods running it are in the US.

[–]Icalasari 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Could be nice if seasteading takes off - hosting a server in international waters means you aren't beholden to such stuff, and can move the servers themselves if anybody tries to take matters in their own hands

[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

We're working on a distributed solution where it would be peer-hosted so it could never be shut down. But that could be a year or two away as the technology is very new.

[–]Icalasari 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

So hit a bit of a bug. Got alerted three times to this same post as if it was a new response each time

[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes we're aware of the issue and working to resolve it, thank you. It's some kind of new bug.

/u/d3rr there's a couple other people having the issue now

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

One step forward two steps back :/

I can try a fix in like 30 mins.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Would you be against me trying a server restart right now? Or at least restarting cassandra and a few other services?

[–]PaigeAP 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Same happened to me.

[–]useless_aether 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

me2

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think I just fixed it, let me know if you're still having the issue please.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think I just fixed it, let me know if you're still having the issue please.

[–]PaigeAP 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, I think it's fine now although when browsing the hot page in the top right corner it says that I have 31 post karma despite me having 44 post karma.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If any pages are stuck, you can do a "hard refresh" in many browsers with ctrl+shift+R, and that may un-stick it. If you keep having problems, please please let us know because we need to fix this bug. I think we've mostly got it fixed though.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think I just fixed it, let me know if you're still having the issue please.

[–]Icalasari 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I shall let you know if I encounter it again, thanks

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just the fact you got this message is a good sign that it's fixed :) Thanks

[–]Icalasari 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh damn, that's awesome. This'll be great for the Internet's freedom

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They say distributed servers that no one can shut down will be Web 3.0

[–]Farseli 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've been playing around with zeronet "zites" recently and it's certainly an interesting technology.

I know it was mentioned before, just noting that if it evolves and continues to advance I can see it being able to support something like this.

[–]Troll 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

The US is probably the best bet for freedom of speech. Iceland is overrated.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

LOL

[–]Ahrun 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Please move the server abroad, resisting censorship isn't possible when you're vulnerable to DMCA notices.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

When both admins are in the US, does that actually make us any less vulnerable?

And does now potentially subjecting ourselves to international law in addition to US law make the server harder to shut down, or easier, in reality?

I understand your intent, but these questions need solid answers before we would take that risk.

[–]Ahrun 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You need to decide for yourself whether you want Saidit to be free from censorship by the US government. No other question matters.

Reddit chose to be hosted in the US & Voat decided for Switzerland. Only one remained as a platform for free speech.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You need to decide for yourself whether you want Saidit to be free from censorship by the US government.

Until it's decentralized, this is nearly impossible while both admins are living in the US. It's just a fact of life I'm afraid. We're working toward decentralizing it. It's as free as we can manage without getting in trouble with the law.

Even voat doesn't allow piracy links and other things that break US law...

Decentralizing the server so it's peer-hosted is the only real way forward in the long run.

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good, my friend.