Shills and Narratives

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[–]Jesus[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Jesus Christ, I don’t know.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Alright, after a lot of thought, I think we're going to make a rule change soon, no upvoting yourself with alternate accounts. Seems the only reasonable way to move forward.

[–]fred_red_beans 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Seems hard to enforce when the alts can come from different IP addresses. Although I could see how a pattern might be easier to see when usernames are shown with votes.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And also when they always link to the same site, or use the same odd phrases. There's lots of ways to piece together the puzzle

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah now you know how I feel.

I guess the only course of action is to ban those who are upvoting themselves, and make a new rule to that effect.

Either that or just try to ignore it and let it fester and fester in the name of "free speech". But I guess upvoting yourself with alt accounts has nothing to do with speech so I shouldn't feel bad about it.

[–]JasonCarswell 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Don't feel bad. I haven't even seen MartinTimothy argue back on this matter (not that I've even come close to reading all of SaidIt).

Pick a phrase:

  • free speech vs free speech unfairness / rigging

  • free speech vs drowning out free speech

  • free speech vs artificial amplification

[–]magnora7 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

artificial amplification is the problem, one person creating the false appearance of group consensus

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Quarantine their submissions into their own subs. The submission titles can't be refuted without clicking on the comments.

The crazy comments can easily be debunked, or ignored. Plus, they rarely respond to comments in a coherent way.

It's unlikely that they will reach out to you to appeal their quarantine. If they do, that would be progress. Take that opportunity to consider their appeal, motivations, etc. If they don't then they may make new accounts, and get back at it.

It's a terrible option, but doing nothing is getting nothing but vigorous debate.

Vigorous hand-wringing intensifies!