Saidit is becoming an echo chamber

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[–]magnora7 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

As saidit admin I just want to say that I agree with you here. But what do you think the reaction should be?

I, as an admin, can delete it. But a key part of saidit that's different from reddit is that we don't have admins and mods going around deleting things arbitrarily. I could make an argument about deleting it due to the low quality of the information, but I've never deleted anything for that reason before nor do I really want to start. Then I have to make decisions myself constantly about what is "good information" and what is "low quality".

The main solution is for other people to post and upvote better quality information. The fact it only got 2 insightful votes is a good thing, it was basically ignored.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I have a sub suggestion below to allow the community to police it's self.

Decentralized community shaming.

Tel Aviv to suck my Eglin

[–]happysmash27 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That's called the downvote, and it didn't work very well on Reddit; shaming is a terrible rhetorical tactic.

I suggest that more people go into the comments to politely explain and debate flaws. The nice thing about SaidIt is that you tend not to be banned for doing that.

Edit: I just read your comment below, and now realise I misread what you are saying.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's not downvoting. Maybe an American Hasbara AH tag next to the comment that notifies the American Hasbara mods to look into the claim.
It also warns the reader that the info may be suspect.
It would also identify fraudulent posts that Shills are boosting up the list.

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Could you add a kind of "trash" (functionally downvote) button, hidden away in the "report" section? One that had transparency of use. That way, the community can delete it, and if people are misusing this then the policy can be reviewed.

I don't know, though; this is a really, really tricky problem.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Interesting idea, I'll consider it.

I don't know, though; this is a really, really tricky problem.

It honestly is. I think it's the problem of the decade, as far as the internet is concerned. I bet books had a similar problem when the printing press was invented. So much propaganda masquerading as real information, and so hard to tell what is what.

[–]For_Freedom 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

How about a button so we can ignore these ignorant racists and their submissions ?

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don't think that would be a good idea, because then we would be living in a small fortress inside a wider, manipulated Saidit.

If we can't ignore the people attacking the site, we're forced to confront them. I think having a way of visually distinguishing the "ignored" stuff is good, though, so we can manually ignore it.

/u/magnora7

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I think having a way of visually distinguishing the "ignored" stuff is good, though, so we can manually ignore it.

Not a bad idea. I'll have to think about the details of that one.

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Still thinking? Should I make a post on /s/IdeasForSaidit?

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

On reflection, I don't think many people would use that feature. I could be wrong though, feel free to post it up to saiditideas and see what others think?

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Posted. https://saidit.net/eqn/

Also, https://saidit.net/ciz is an example of people wanting the feature.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

We might add an ignore button, you're the 2nd to suggest it in the last few days.