Something for SaidIt ? : "Brave Rewards is our anonymous donation system integrated directly into the Brave desktop browser. Publishers and creators who wish to participate in Brave Rewards can join by signing up via our publisher portal."

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Some Brave news if you missed it: https://bitcoinist.com/brave-browser-donations-not-optional/

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

AAAUUUGAAA!!!

(That's my alarm bell when the red flag raises.)

" So although Brave has fallen somewhere between naive and fraudulent (depending on how generous you feel) on its implementation of tipping unverified users until now, it’s nice to know that the company is listening to its critics. Even internet trolls and ‘shitposters.’ "

Back when I started Brave and learned about the rewards (before forgetting them for many months) I was not on any social media to speak of, much less worth rewarding. I actually checked to see if I could "reward" InfoGalactic, 11337x, and The Corbett Report - but found they had not opted in so there was no way rewards could be collected for them until they signed up. In fact there were very few sites of any kind that had opted in, making my limited time points forgettably useless.

I guess something changed between then and that article from last month, December. Maybe they were more focused on making the rewards thing happen than worrying about these issues.

In my experience Brave is very responsive and listens to the community. They don't implement all the things we want (ie. dark theme, vertical tabs, etc.), but they're working on it. I honestly don't know if the back end is so much superior with security/privacy as they claim or if as I've said, (and they didn't appreciate), they seem like a Chrome clone with very little different in functionality on the front end other than being noticeable faster than all other browsers.

I don't know how many folks work there, or where they get their money. For now I'm going to give them benefit of the doubt and call them naive with a skeptical finger on the fraudulent trigger.

So this raises an interesting issue for SaidIt, not just for Brave Rewards. When you come across something like this how do you proceed?

1) Sign up and collect rewards, even if they made a poor judgement once or twice? We all make mistakes. Forgive but don't forget.

2) Take a hard line and avoid and don't support or participate in all things that seem like a scheme or don't deliver on their promise? ie. Steemit, Bitcoin, BitChute, many cryptos, etc?

3) Just utilize them anyway and hope the wild west ethically sorts itself out? No need to suffer if we can use the support, the alternatives can use the support, and as long as we're not exploited.

4) Case by case basis.

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Hey man I never responded to this one. I don't even understand the Brave attention rewards system or the fraud allegations, but if SaidIt can get paid something with real value to cover hosting costs then I'm interested. I guess their $1 million giveaway is over.

Your 4 ways to proceed are very interesting and philosophical and I don't have an answer. Me personally I'm totally a number two and will hold a furious grudge for decades, fuck everybody. But I think most people are more of a number one. Of course I'm happy to number 1 for the greater good on this SaidIt project.

I agree with your assessment of the Brave code, they are just a clone with a blacklist of advertising scripts and cookies that they refuse to work with. And what do you know, half of the web is ad tracking shit, so now everything loads super fast. That's pretty revolutionary from a business or political perspective, but yeah technically it's simple. Built in ad-blocker.

Edit: I dig this whole BAT idea, I'll sign up SaidIt. If you opt into viewing ads on Brave, you earn BAT too, you don't have to put in real $, they've got it all figured out.

Edit2: Also I don't trust what Brave says about their ad system. They are totally uploading the ad categories that apply to you to their servers, when it's time to show a Brave ad. They dance around it but I'm pretty sure it's happening.