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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

XY gonadal dysgenesis, also known as Swyer syndrome, is a type of hypogonadism in a person whose karyotype is 46,XY. Though they typically have normal female external genitalia, the person has functionless gonads, fibrous tissue termed "streak gonads", and if left untreated, will not experience puberty.

Seems that the case you showed me and other cases of fertility in such cases are due to the people being chimeras. Which means they are part male and part female genetically. There are still two distinct parts.

As u/Vulptex said, "intersex" is a catch-all category for people with disorders of sexual development. For people who literally have some male and some female genes, sure they are essentially part male and part female. That's a very, very small proportion of the people categorized as intersex; usually it's some kind of hormonal disorder.

And again, the person in your study was a combination of both sexes genetically. We can define the sexes chromosomally, but sometimes things go wrong in development or chimeras occur.

it should be noted that the incidence of normal fertile females who have a 46,XY karyotype is not known because it is not routine to check the karyotype in fertile women.

Definitely interesting, but with everyone sending their genes to 23AndMe and related companies, if it was some common thing, we would know.

I wonder if there are any positives to such a condition at all or if they generally tend to be negative and neutral, in which case they'll probably just die out or continue to occasionally spontaneously occur at a very low rate, the way they do now.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Being an XY female would be the best. Female but without periods and other annoying sexual functions. Not even having to experience puberty at all.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I'm very curious about whether such people have any sex drive at all.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Probably not. Which also isn't a bad thing.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why not? It's fun and it keeps the human race going by facilitating bonding and/or reproduction. Though in fairness we really need to breed less and reduce the population, but our population reaching zero would be bad.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's fun for a few minutes at best, and then it's distracting and irritating. Plus being horny makes you do some really stupid things. And it comes at the price of destroying the rest of your body and even impairing your mind. The ability to orgasm and make seed was definitely not worth sacrificing my entire wellbeing. Of course maybe it's no problem for everyone else because they can't remember any of their childhoods for some reason.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

[Being horny] comes at the price of destroying the rest of your body and even impairing your mind.

How?

maybe it's no problem for everyone else because they can't remember any of their childhoods for some reason.

What does this mean? Getting horny fucked up your childhood? :/

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The development of sexual characteristics. It's a nightmare. You probably think it's worth it if your big goal is to have kids, but I don't. I don't need a bulky skeletal structure that feels like I'm trapped in armor at all times, I don't need the constant annoyance of having to masturbate all the time, I don't need the raging hormones and extreme anger, I don't need to lose my hair in exchange for a beard and hair all over my body, I don't need to look so mean nasty and threatening that even animals don't trust me, I don't need the devastating loss of intelligence particularly in the creative areas, I don't need the loss of vivid senses, and above all I don't need to lose the ability to feel emotions other than rage and self-pity. All of those things are puberty's fault. Oh, and lucky me, I also ended up with gender dysphoria on top of that, so it's even worse! Ever since all this started I've wanted to die. I was a happy child with a bright future, and a much better person. Then this happened and everything turned bleak and hopeless, and there's no sign that it will ever end.