Decentralizing SaidIt

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[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Alright, sounds great. Glad you like my "A". Looking forward to the bubble and .net variants

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

/u/magnora7 /u/d3rr

File page: https://infogalactic.com/info/File:Saidit.net_2019_Logo_Revision_Variants_Part_Three.svg

SVG file may display large in browser and may be scalable depending on your browser's capabilities: https://infogalactic.com/w/images/7/77/Saidit.net_2019_Logo_Revision_Variants_Part_Three.svg

This is Version Two with additions. The new stuff:

Middle column of "dot net" bottom one is a new adjustment and my fave. Above it is the old thin version. Beside it are 16x16 boxes with an "S" which might make for a good favicon.

The right column at the bottom has one moved to the right which is mostly copied for the blue/red pill versions. All 4 have the newest "dot net", different "T" and "S" as well

The bottom left cluster of six are all different. Of those 6 the top 2 and middle right are the old thin dot net while the bottom two and middle left feature my new fave dot net.

Of those 6 the left column are magnora7's last choice with slight variations to the "A". The top one has a higher cross bar, like the version to its right. The middle one has a lower crossbar which is harder to read, like the A to it's right. The bottom "A" has flat feet rather than the 45 degree slice. All of the crossbar slices are not 45 degrees but a copy of the A frame angle.

Of those 6 the right column top 2 are d3rr's choices.

Of those 6 the right column bottom 1 is almost my choice. With an "S" like the blue versions it might be. Also, I might like the "A" crossbar sliced. But this isn't about me.

I would have done more .net variants but I feel like I finally nailed it. Please don't hesitate to critique it though. I also ran out of space and got lazy so I didn't do as many versions as I prolly should have. And I didn't show what I mean by different bubble treatments.

Sleep.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Thanks, these look awesome. Sorry for the delayed reply. I'm going to have to think about which ones I like.

I think as far as the text, let's lock in the one on the left column, 3rd from the bottom. It's perfect. No more text variations please. If you could do a round-bubble version of that, plus the colors for that, then we'll start testing it out.

If you can make the grey background transparent, and cut the images down to their final small logo size, we can start testing them on the development server.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

/u/magnora7 /u/d3rr

Comments encouraged if you see any way to improve any of these.

https://infogalactic.com/info/File:Saidit.net_2019_Logo_Revision_Variants_Part_Four.svg

I don't know what colours you'd like. I just picked some web safe colours to see if you thought the red pill thing was funny or worth exploring. (Web safe colours was an issue over 20 years ago. Makes me feel old.)

M7, you picked the "boxed" version of text in this "Part Four" and said it's perfect. However it had a slightly older different .net than my latest .net. To the right of the boxed version is a light blue version, also with the older .net. The rest of them are the newer version, like the 500% one.

Besides the .net all the texts are the same.

Besides the boxed version, all of the SaidIt bubbles are the same, aside from the oval and round ones. I added them just to be sure. I don't expect you'll want to explore those, but if you do I can.

The right-most two bubbles are a slight exploration into line width, should you choose to explore that. I should have done one without any outline. Also I should have done one like a drop shadow.

Like the 16x16 favicon boxes, I thought I'd explore the "S" alone a bit more. There's an "S" in a rounded bubble with most of the same proportions as the 9 below. In the 6 "S" group, the top 2 also share this height, but I've lost he tail. In the middle of those 6 I shrunk the height. For the "S" without the "aidIt" I prefer this tighter S-to-height ratio. Of the 6, the bottom right "S" in a circle is the same as the one above.

Of the "S" group 6, the bottom left is by far my favourite. I shrunk the tail to be more proportionate. It's also mathematically fit. This is my favourite ovoid shape of all time - a half circle, a square, and the other half of a circle - merged. Further the "S" (and all the letters except "I") fits perfectly in a square. Double that square and you get the height of the ovoid (except the tail) and if you triple that square you get the width of that ovoid. Mathematical balance. :)

Bonus:

I took the liberty of trying to make the graphic more clear. In doing so I also found I could tighten up the phrasology a little. Please lemme know if you'd like any changes, reversions, adjustments, or if I overlooked spelling typos.

I noticed one problem. The SVG files did not save out my carefully selected font. So the "detailed" SVG version is "broken" and the SVGs should be avoided until I replace them with a solution, outlines if necessary.

https://infogalactic.com/info/File:The_Debate_Pyramid_v2_Detailed.png

https://infogalactic.com/info/File:The_Debate_Pyramid_v2_Simple.png

https://infogalactic.com/info/File:The_Debate_Pyramid_v2_Simple_With_White_Outline.png

https://infogalactic.com/info/File:The_Debate_Pyramid_v2_Detailed.svg

https://infogalactic.com/info/File:The_Debate_Pyramid_v2_Simple.svg

https://infogalactic.com/info/File:The_Debate_Pyramid_v2_Simple_With_White_Outline.svg

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I like the top left SaidIt.net bubble, rectangular rounded. Hard to say if the colors will work but the purple on purple looks pretty snazzy on its own.

Bonus: this looks fantastic https://infogalactic.com/w/images/thumb/9/9a/The_Debate_Pyramid_v2_Detailed.svg/800px-The_Debate_Pyramid_v2_Detailed.svg.png (edit I changed my pyramid vote to the less bold one)

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The less bold version is crap because the font was not imbedded. I'll have to do outlines.

Fortunately the "TT Norms" narrowly beat out "Gilroy" and the TTNorms has a lot of variants, including several of various boldness. So I can do finer versions.

The thumbnails for those images in the SaidIt gallery are actually helpful because you can see what is easier to read when shrunk down. For example the finer fonts when large and shrunk are superior, yet the bolder fonts when small and shrunk are easier to read - but that may just be due to wider thickness and kerning (spacing), and some of it's moot.

The red and blue (purple) were just complimentary web-safe colours - for a mere inkling of it's potential. Both as a pill shape as well as day/night modes.

If you guys like I can do a whole colour theory pitch.

But since SaidIt is in grey tones I recommend we stick to that for the moment until the logo gets locked in.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Wow looks great! Thanks for the pyramid of debate graphics too, that's a great idea and you executed it well.

I'm going to reflect on which ones I like for a while, and try some out on the development server. I'll message you in a few days or less after we've had time to do some tests and so on to see which fits best and stuff like that. They all look so clean and nice though, I'm very happy. Thank you!

So ignoring the very bottom row, can you now slice those bottom 8 logos in to separate logo-sized files with transparent backgrounds? Then we can try them out and bring them to a vote

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

By your approval I take it that you prefer the rounded ends and the newer .net.

As SVG files you can edit them yourselves too should you choose for any reason, but before it comes to that I'm happy to prep them.

I think I'm going to change the tails a smidge. I hope it's not even perceptible. The 45 degree bar is precisely the same width ad the letters and outline, but it doesn't "snap" on the grid. The "S" with a smaller tail I snapped-to-grid and it basically virtually the same. Since this is easier to edit I'll do the same. This is less a note to you and more for posterity sake and for future graphic designers (even though this discussion is buried several pages in).

Stay 'tooned.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

/u/magnora7 /u/d3rr

Scroll down: https://infogalactic.com/info/SaidIt_gallery

There are three miniscule adjustments to the final logo. I'm confident that you'd not detect them unless you overlap them in a graphics app to compare to find the minute adjustment. The design now has a perfect 7x3 ratio.

The slight alterations are that I squared the "D" and "T". Unfortunately this makes the "S" and "A" slightly more dominant. I also reduced the tail by one graph unit. To know what that means, the outlines are two graph units wide. It's all very mathematically precise actually on the graph. The bubble is seven times as long as the squares of the "S" "D" and "T" and twice as high, plus the tail makes it a 7:3 ratio. Crazy weird right M7 and D3?

I don't know if you saw this in chat (improved phraseology)...

Is it okay if these are all copyright-free? I'd like to upload them to Wikimedia Commons where they won't allow anything with any restrictions whatsoever. Copyrights, copylefts, etc. On WC it may catch a few eyes - not a lot, but some. If you wish to retain rights that's fine too. It's up to you. Answer in private if you feel like.

I'll never say no to money but all my shared designs are my open gifts to SaidIt and the Truther cause, hopefully for anyone to freely use and riff on, including for banner designs, etc. Down the road if we do merchandise I may wish to create new designs that cooperatively benefit SaitIt and me.

After being banned from Wikipedia for 2017 I came back an posted "porn" on Wikipedia, that remains there in two articles to this day. I can't be a truther but I can be a smut peddler. I'd forgotten but re-found it when looking at my Commons submissions. I thought you guys might get a kick out of it: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fourgy-Inked-Colour.png Love thy neighbour.

I've applied the new logo to /s/DecentralizeAllThings/ and I feel like that CSS is an improvement over the current site-wide theme for readability and ergonomics. The colour differences may seem a little jarring at first but with each colour serving for each function it actually becomes more user friendly. If you read the /s/DecentralizeAllThings/about/stylesheet/ you'll see I still have a To Do List of things I'd still like to address, but I'll have to study the Reddit sub themes further. My day theme needs darker letters and more contrasts for stronger readability. I've asked for constructive criticism but no one cares.

If you ever seek ways to improve things I made some SaidIt Wish Lists: https://infogalactic.com/info/SaidIt#Wish_lists I'll be updating that as new ideas come to me or that I see and I'll point to it on occasion.