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[–]Site_rly_sux 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (39 children)

It was a thread about antivax lies, not about how stressful his new job is.

I would have thought that a new job would be stressful enough without also pushing a fake antivax narrative. Maybe if he was that stressed, he might have laid off posting fake antivax narratives online.

Also - you haven't checked yet how stressed my job is. Maybe someone would wish a pox on you, if you don't confirm that with me before going on the attack

[–]Musky 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (38 children)

fake antivax narrative

Being against the covid vaccine is different from being against vaccines that actually work.

Also - you haven't checked yet how stressed my job is

You aren't running off, Zom has a habit of that.

[–]BISH 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (11 children)

Being against the covid vaccine is different from being against vaccines that actually work.

Do you know which ones work?

[–]Musky 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Polio, smallpox, tetanus, hep A & B, rubella, hib, measles, pertussis, diphtheria, and mumps have all been virtually eliminated in the US because of vaccinations.

[–]BISH 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

all been virtually eliminated in the US because of vaccinations.

What if I told you that fatality of all of those illnesses had already dropped by more than 95% before the vaccines were available?

That would be strong evidence that vaccines are not the miracle medical advancement that they are alleged to be, right???

Dissolving Vaccine Illusions - Roman Bystrianyk - Oct 22 2021

Here's a link to the graphs and trend lines from the interview.

https://dissolvingillusions.com/graphs-images/

Scroll halfway down the page for the charts.

Actual medical history is very different from what we're taught in school.

[–]Schwarzenigga 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

^ And like these vaccines, the COVID vaccines have helped people build immunity to the virus so that it is now for many more like a flu than a horrific bronchial, fever and headache disaster for 2 weeks, with the minor potential to die.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

That's not immunity fool, that's lessening symptoms (which the 'vax' maybe have done, if your heart could handle it), like an immunotherapy product.

[–]Schwarzenigga 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You can't use that dumbass 100% immunity strawman argument for ANY vaccine. ALL "vaccines have helped people build immunity," thereby reducing the SEVERITY AND spread of viruses. We've been over this, many times.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

It should give immunity in at least 90% of cases to be called a vaccine? That's how it was pre-covid. I will grant you that demanding 100% is a fallacious argument.

[–]Schwarzenigga 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We discussed this. A vaccine doesn't give anything but part of a virus or something similar to a virus, so that YOU build immunity to it.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

no no, we misunderstand each other already. nm dude.

[–]Musky 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, the vaccines I listed actually work -- unless Bish is right. The covid vaccine has always been for the wrong strain than what was going around, and it's those mutations that reduced the severity of covid, that had nothing to do with the vaccine. It is questionable whether the vaccine itself actually helps reduce the already greatly reduced severity, but even if so, it was foolish to mandate covid vaccinations and doubly foolish to ever suggest children get it. The only people who should get a covid vaccine are at risk populations.

[–]Schwarzenigga 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No... none of this

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

being against vaccines that actually work

No idea what you're talking about. I'm telling you that zom was sharing a fake antivax narrative - no need to take it personally.

[–]Musky 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

No, he was right. You were just defending your ideology against reason and logic.

it's trained and qualified medical professionals.

You're saying that because trained and qualified medical professionals can make expert judgements about their field of expertise, then you should be allowed to read a headline containing the word "two" and be allowed to fill in any number that you wish. Do I have that right?

I spent all morning writing a letter that I plan to send out to doctors in my area because I am having trouble finding anyone competent. To be fair, I do have something fairly unusual, often faked, and untestable, but it's 26 years of this and dozens of doctors, and it really can't be ignored any longer.

There are some really competent specialists, don't get me wrong, but most doctors did not graduate top of their class, and they all practice medicine too.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Why don't you keep that topic in its own thread. I pretty much have zero idea what you mean.

But it could be related to the issue you told me about before in the duckduckgo where your mom comes down to your basement some nights after her and your stepdad drink. I think mental trauma can manifest in weird bodily pains, so perhaps you ought to consider a shrink if the doctors aren't working

[–]Musky 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Hahaha, got the libtard mad. Blew his mind out with facts.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You wrote quite a sad post about your troubles with doctors. It was more sad than maddening or factual. If you want some honest feedback: no, I don't think you should send a letter to all the doctors in your area, because that would be fucking deranged

[–]Musky 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

It's difficult to find a doctor for anything besides simple obvious stuff. Most people never have to deal with it, and even if their doctors goof, the patient doesn't realize. I'm like the OG fact checker on everything doctors say. It's disturbing how often they are full of shit. It's not unlike mechanics, many people cannot judge their work, so you have to believe whatever the mechanic says, or hope you can get a better mechanic.

So when you say, we must listen to the Medical Professionals, I think why would anyone put too much faith in that pack of jokers.

[–]Schwarzenigga 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

no, I don't think you should send a letter to all the doctors in your area, because that would be fucking deranged

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's difficult when you can't find a professional more capable than oneself. We didn't start out here, but leaving things to their own devices does not work.

[–]Schwarzenigga 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Zom was obviously wrong. It's not an ideology. Antivax disinformation is obviously not supported by facts, reason or logic.

[–]Musky 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

You're just misinformed. You just wrote you thought the covid vaccine was why the severity of symptoms was reduced. 😂

[–]Schwarzenigga 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Simply look it up, ffs, before making false claim after false claim. (Yes, when vaccines help your body respond to a virus, thereby building antibodies, the virus symptoms are less severe if you get the virus. Almost anyone can understand this.)

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

the (vaxed person's) virus symptoms are less severe if you get the virus

maybe fair, but you have to put this on the old pro/con checklist with the risk of dying without the vax, and the risk of the vax's potential side effects.

[–]Schwarzenigga 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'll put this on a list of 'why oh why are there so many anti-vaxxers in the 21st century in a wealthy country like the US?' It's as if Pasteur, Jenner, Beijerinck, Enders, Klug, Baltimore, Newton, Galileo, Lavoisier (or the folks he stole from), Darwin, Einstein, Curie, Hawking, Tesla, and Faraday never existed.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fucking a man, give me those sweet citations.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Dear Diary, today Socks was a nigger.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/is-omicron-really-less-severe-heres-what-the-science-says

Multiple lines of evidence from various parts of the world suggest that the Omicron variant causes a less severe form of COVID-19. In South Africa, where Omicron was first detected in November 2021, a private health insurance administrator reported in mid-December that adults with Omicron were 29 percent less likely to be hospitalized, compared with adults infected several months earlier. In the U.K., the rate of hospital admission among people who went to the emergency room with Omicron was a third of what it was for Delta, according to a summary of research from the U.K. Health Security Agency released on December 31, 2021.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-variants-of-concern-omicron

Each new strain has been less deadly than the one before it.

[–]Schwarzenigga 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

This is unrelated to my comments. Regardless of the COVID strain or variant (there are many strains and a few variants), the way one develops antibodies with the help vaccines reduced the severity of the symptoms when you get the virus. It's REALLY simple to understand and almost everyone who has read about COVID will know this. Also, read this.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2022/12/05/jme-2022-108449

Based on public data provided by the CDC,19 we estimate that in the fall of 2022 at least 31 207–42 836 young adults aged 18–29 years must be boosted with an mRNA vaccine to prevent one Omicron-related COVID-19 hospitalisation over 6 months. Given the fact that this estimate does not take into account the protection conferred by prior infection or a risk adjustment for comorbidity status, this should be considered a conservative and optimistic assessment of benefit. Our estimate shows that university COVID-19 vaccine mandates are likely to cause net expected harms to young healthy adults—for each hospitalisation averted we estimate approximately 18.5 SAEs and 1430–4626 disruptions of daily activities—that is not outweighed by a proportionate public health benefit. Serious COVID-19 vaccine-associated harms are not adequately compensated for by current US vaccine injury systems. As such, these severe infringements of individual liberty and human rights are ethically unjustifiable.

Mandates are also associated with wider social harms. The fact that such policies were implemented despite controversy among experts and without updating the sole publicly available risk-benefit analysis19 to the current Omicron variants nor submitting the methods to public scrutiny suggests a profound lack of transparency in scientific and regulatory policy making. These findings have implications for mandates in other settings such as schools, corporations, healthcare systems and the military. Policymakers should repeal COVID-19 vaccine mandates for young adults immediately and ensure pathways to compensation to those who have suffered negative consequences from these policies. Regulatory agencies should facilitate independent scientific analysis through open access to participant-level clinical trial data to allow risk-stratified and age-stratified risk-benefit analyses of any new vaccines prior to issuing recommendations.125 This is needed to begin what will be a long process of rebuilding trust in public health.

A slave will not be instructed by words alone; For though he understands, there will be no response. (Proverbs 29:19)

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

His job is to be here.