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[–]HibikiBlack 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (37 children)

I banned you for pushing for the Greater Israel narratives, which I've already completely destroyed. I gave you the reason when it came to the Catholic that edited Mein Kampf even, which was a minor mistake either way...

I have no intentions to lower my mistrust towards /u/Jesus, but I'm willing to let it slide for the sake of transparency.

[–]LarrySwinger2 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

I will say that I disagree about banning a user over a disagreement about facts, no matter who's correct.

[–]HibikiBlack 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

It's ok if you feel that way. The problem is, allowing certain narratives, has terrible consequences... A lot of the times Saidit has been attacked, it usually involves pushing for the hardcore anti-Semitic stuff, I've even criticised Magnora over his selective obliviousness.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I posted, what? one post about Jesuits in a Jesuit sub and you deleted it and banned me. You think a lot like the conspiracy theorist rabbi Antelmen and Barry Chamish and that if anyone criticizes Israel or Judaism or Jews, then that will lead to persecution but then again, I'm just a "CIA fuck" according to Hibs and useless_aether, who both moderate the same subs.

A lot of the times Saidit has been attacked, it usually involves pushing for the hardcore anti-Semitic stuff

You are literally writing like Alan Dershowitz would or all the other anti-BDS spokespersons that use the so-called anti-Semitic canard. So, these Israeli shills are spreading all kinds of crazy degenerate racial ad hominems in order to ban others, which is EXACTLY what JIDF and the ADL does, who, mind you, are both owned by Zionist Jews, not Jesuits. But then again, you say Jesuits are anti-Semitic, so you'd be fine with the ADL and JIDF censoring then?

And did you make this criticism to /u/magnora7 in order to ban these posters, like me, who you have said that my "behavior" was in bad light and that magnora should "watch out." Sounds very anti-free speech to me.

Futhermore, this criticism is exactly what useless_aether did when he cried about so-called anti-Semitism and having the right to BAN IT on Saidit as well as what he defined as communist propaganda. You two think very a like, you both use the anti-Semitic canard, both called me a CIA fuck, a very unique ad hominem; both are mods at /r/Jesuits and blame everything on Jesuits and useless_aether's last post, before he dissapeared from the internet, was the IDF soldier John Loftus' book 'The Secret War agaisnt the Jews' which is full of disinfomation and of which I have debunked here:

https://saidit.net/s/conspiracy/comments/7sgk/uuseless_aether_use_to_quote_john_loftus_so_i/

Useless_aether's post:

https://saidit.net/s/books/comments/4zpf/the_secret_war_against_the_jews_by_john_loftus/

It’s a curious fact too that those who I have conversed with who disregard or outright attack Piper or Metta’s books concerning the assassination of JFK are Zionists or have ties to Israel. John Loftus attacks the permindex connection and believes Garrison was working with Shaw, somehow, probably to muddy the waters. As a disinformation agent who helped Israel pillage and plunder Palestine it only makes sense that he would do this. Loftus was a key figure in the 1967 war in Israel and helped train Israeli forces. The Jesuit theorists like Loftus, Drake Shelton, who is a member of a Freemasonic lodge, who hibs often quotes, says that JFK faked his own death. Interesting. Why are you also pushing the propaganda that JFK might have been a secret protestant to infiltrate the Catholic church (he was a Catholic), not like faux Catholic Chabadnik Biden; when it was Freemasons and Zionist Jews that assassinated him. The conspiracy theorist that pushes this disinfo is ERic Jon Phelps who sells diamonds in Israel.

Call me curious.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Curious too.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

A lot of the times Saidit has been attacked, it usually involves pushing for the hardcore anti-Semitic stuff

How so?

You mean technical attacks or troll attacks?

[–]HibikiBlack 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Actual astroturfing, shill team attacks. Magnora himself fought them off many times, but ironically allows room for such groups to always come back...

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I mean what does "pushing for" mean?

 

Here's an idea for /u/HibikiBlack and /u/Jesus...

Can you guys promise to agree to:

  1. Never censor each other.

  2. Never censor anything related to religion, God, Christianity, Jesuits, Catholics, Judaism, Zionism, Israel, and atheism.

  3. If you have ANY issue with the things above or each other, immediately take it to a mod of that sub, or /u/d3rr, or /u/magnora7.

Agree to disagree - and agree to these 3 - and we may have peace.

[–]Node 5 insightful - 8 fun5 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 8 fun -  (15 children)

I banned you for pushing for the Greater Israel narratives, which I've already completely destroyed.

Have you told the jews about their plan being destroyed?

It's a little weird to see the two of you turn out to be an anti-Christian sect member and a jewish supremacist who've stopped hating God for a bit to fight each other.

Anyway, the reason you stated above doesn't appear to be a valid reason for censoring or banning in a legitimate sub.

I've just followed this here from a comment in all/comments. I'm about to have some caffeine and load all the comments on this post for more context.

[–]HibikiBlack 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (10 children)

The end goal of the NWO is the Jesuit supernaturalist Omega Point... When WWIII starts, the Jews and the Syrians will kill each other.

A lot of the people who criticize me over here, /u/Jesus included, are confessed Catholics, who have admitted their hatred towards the flesh and the need to transcend it in order to become spirits...

So who are you going to trust my friends? Neutrality in this world is almost impossible...

[–]Node 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

The Omega Point is a supposed future when everything in the universe spirals toward a final point of unification.[1] The term was invented by the French Jesuit Catholic priest Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (1881–1955).[2] Teilhard argued that the Omega Point resembles the Christian Logos, namely Christ, who draws all things into himself, who in the words of the Nicene Creed, is "God from God", "Light from Light", "True God from true God", and "through him all things were made".[3] In the Book of Revelation, Christ describes himself thrice as "the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end". The idea of the Omega Point is developed in later writings, such as those of John David Garcia (1971), Paolo Soleri (1981), Frank Tipler (1994), and David Deutsch (1997).[4][5][6]

Interesting theory that seems plausible, but it would be "quite some time" before that could happen. Unless some radical change happened, it would be trillions of years. If that's really what the Jesuits are going for, they could probably slack off for several billion years with no noticeable effect on the timeline.

Catholics, who have admitted their hatred towards the flesh

Even Christians are commanded to a certain level of rejection of the flesh, and the world, in favor of their actual soul. I'm not a theologian, but have a passing knowledge of the basics. The main problem with the Catholics is that they're faking being Christians, since rejecting God's words and commandments in the Bible pretty much means you reject Christ, and can't legitimately call yourself Christian.

A close second might be their preference for raping children, engaging in drug-fueled homosexual orgies, and ultra-gluttony in the financial realm. It's like they're direct employees of satan.

Jesuits

I admit to practically no knowledge or understanding of what that secret society is about, who they're affiliated with, or wtf is up with them. To the extent I've heard and read about them, they're associated with The Cabal, the jews, the satanic cults, the CIA and deep staters around the world, and the rest of that crowd.

There's no one I can trust to reveal 'the real truth' about them, or the rest of their associates. At best, they probably let useful info 'leak' out, but disinformation and misdirection is the basis of their existence.

I have about zero interest in spending enough time researching 'that whole crowd' to have a sense of who the players are and what their real goals are. However, reading supported arguments between you and others on the topic would be interesting, and hopefully informative.

That's why I think you shouldn't ban people like Jesus.

One question. When you say you've debunked the 'greater Israel' theory, is that just a technical argument, or do you actually support jewish existence?

[–]HibikiBlack 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

If a major fight between the US and Russia breaks out, the Jews and the Syrians will also go all out against each other. Since they have more or less the same strength they will most likely render each other nations useless. This debunks the Greater Israel narratives.

I'm not fond of the idea that knowledge can't be possessed. I find that point of view as very anti-intellectual. Radical conspiracism gets used by the intelligence groups to destroy potential revolutionary groups the whole time...

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

If a major fight between the US and Russia breaks out, the Jews and the Syrians will also go all out against each other. Since they have more or less the same strength they will most likely render each other nations useless. This debunks the Greater Israel narratives.

Sorry dude. That's sci-fi, not debunking.

[–]HibikiBlack 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Can I trust you to apologize when the Jews and the Syrians end up killing each other then?...

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

No. They already are. Yes, I expect things to get worse there as there are obvious declarations and prophecies and bullshit indicating that each wants the other gone, but they're not going to completely wipe each other out. Further, if you are correct then there will be much bigger problems that whether I need to apologize or not.

Long before any of that happens we're going to see more censorship, more lockdown, more tyranny, and more chaos as the globalists depopulate the planet via vaccines, famine, and wars.

[–]HibikiBlack 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

My claim isn't that the Jews will be wiped out completely, just that they will be at least rendered useless as a nation, the complete opposite of the invincible Greater Israel narratives.

Jesuits need to get rid of the Second Age Man. And they see the Muslims and traditional Catholics as such, so there will probably be a civil war in the US in the next few months and Trump will play a huge role in it, the objective of the movement is to destroy the right.

They will probably use the heat of the moment to justify WWIII, once that happens almost nobody will be able to resist their technocracy.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

they will be at least rendered useless as a nation

Now that seems even more absurd. (((They))) control the banks, the media, the governments, the militaries, and the industries of the world.

there will probably be a civil war in the US in the next few months

Nah. Few+ years, more likely. Economic crash sooner.

and Trump will play a huge role in it

Perhaps, in 3 years. But it will be about more than Trump - it will be about the scamdemic, climate scam, and food, as well as the other stupid excuses to fight: sex, gender, race, politics, etc.

We're in WW4

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Wait, the Jews won't use nukes? Because they are so kind and forgiving to their enemies?

[–]HibikiBlack 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The Jews aren't the only group that supposedly has nukes... And I myself tend to lean towards the idea that nukes are a hoax.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because the films of the tests all look weird? They were (mostly crudely) edited in order to remove the UFOs that came by every single time.

[–]Jesus 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I'm a Catholic before the anti-pope of Armenian origin. Hibs can write whatever he wants about the Jesuits and Catholcis and their so-called NWo supernaturalist Omega point, he still banend me for disagreeing with him and that is why I have made the contention that he probably should not moderate /r/conspiracy.

A lot of the people who criticize me over here, /u/Jesus included, are confessed Catholics, who have admitted their hatred towards the flesh and the need to transcend it in order to become spirits...

How many times will you put words in my mouth. The flesh dies and withers away. The flesh is useful as all men were created in the eyes of God but only through spirit can we connect to Him who made us.

[–]Node 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

I'm a power-mod on /s/conspiracy now, and I'm sharpening my knives!

I'm a Catholic before the anti-pope of Armenian origin.

The problem with Catholics, imo, is that so many points of the basic Catholic doctrine are anti-Bible and anti-Christ. That seems like a critical point of failure that can't be mitigated, and afaik it's been Catholic doctrine since way before raping children and worshiping satan became so popular among the church leaders.

1 month ago HibikiBlack banned Jesus (permanent: 2. Posts that lack context may be removed.)

  1. Posts that lack context may be removed. Posts & Comments If the post isn't meaningful enough and lacks content, it may be removed by the mods.

"Not meaningful enough" is a sketchy rule. That shouldn't happen in /s/conspiracy, or any sub that appears in s/all. Was kidding about the power mod bit, but that kind of censorship won't fly under my benevolently tyrannical rule.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I'm a power mode x2 on /s/conspiracy now. I'm sharpening my cross through encyclicalling ;)

The problem with Catholics, imo, is that so many points of the basic Catholic doctrine are anti-Bible and anti-Christ. That seems like a critical point of failure that can't be mitigated, and afaik it's been Catholic doctrine since way before raping children and worshiping satan became so popular among the church leaders.

I disagree, Saint Francis had the full backing of the Church and his Way is Christian. I'm a promoter of the Way and the Catholic church, before Nostra Acetate. I believe it is the ONLY or was the ONLY institution that could prevent Judaeo-masonic naturalism from taking hold and serve to maintain the sanctification of grace and duty among the people in charity through Him.

Not meaningful enough" is a sketchy rule. That shouldn't happen in /s/conspiracy, or any sub that appears in s/all. Was kidding about the power mod bit, but that kind of censorship won't fly under my benevolently tyrannical rule.

Not meaingful enough is so ambiguous that what it really means is; my way or the highway.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I was raised as a Catholic. I even went to schools run by Catholic religious orders, schools that aimed at creating priests. I know a lot about Catholicism.

The priests were always going after guilt. The unspoken message was "you aren't good enough and should be ashamed". So guilt and shame. When did Horus (or "Jesus" if you prefer) preach this? Never. He said, "Rejoice!" and "Love one another!". But the entirety of the Catholic BS religion is about spreading guilt, shame and worse. Some priests were also truly suspicious in their demeanor. Ahem.

In the end you are quite right, the Jews subverted Catholicism along with so many other things, and ended up inverting the values. It's what they do.

[–]JasonCarswell 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

the Greater Israel narratives, which I've already completely destroyed

1) The Greater Israel thing IS A REAL PROBLEM.

2) You couldn't possibly have destroyed it.

3) Disagreement is not a reason to censor.

Jesus is a lot of crazy things but CIA crazy is not one of them.

WATCH THE MOD LOGS. If it comes up again then bring it up with the others. You all have to keep each other in line. Agree to disagree - without censoring. He's not perfect, you're not perfect, I'm not perfect. Only /u/d3rr is d3rrfect.

[–]HibikiBlack 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

I agree nobody and I am not perfect. But I have to defend the idea that knowledge can be possessed. If I don't defend my own interpretations, then everything gets reduced to mob rule, very low on the pyramid of debate.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

But I have to defend the idea that knowledge can be possessed.

I don't know what that means.

[–]HibikiBlack 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

If I have a certain idea that I gained by observation, research or whatever, and if it is possible for us to have knowledge, I have all the right to defend my own theory. I'm not saying that this is what will always happen, but sometimes the only way to hold on to your own idea is to defend it from others. If you don't you will get crushed by the mob.

I have argued with these fellows over here a million times. They aren't interested in listening to my counter-arguments, they only want to crush my ideas. In the case of the Israel thing, I have all the right to claim that following the narrative is nonsense, and that this claim is a knowledge that I possess. It's fine if you don't agree with me or whatever, but don't come over to my sub to push that disinfo then.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

/u/JasonCarswell

"I have the right to defend my own theory by banning and censoring those I disagree with because then I'll get crushed by the mob." - Hibikiblack

"If they do not agree with my interpretations and theories and post counter-arguments, they are not interested in my counter-arguments [which I rarely ever post], so it is my right to ban those who believe in the 'Greater Israel Project' conspiracy, which I have bigly destroyed by my huge knowledge that I possess. - Hibikiblack


Post in question:

I said nothing in the post about the 'Greater Israel Project' you said you banned me for.

Your ad hominem response:

Joachimite Catholic lunatic/stereotypical CIA misanthrope.

What you wrote:

Althought I have my reasons to be skeptical about it, this scenario is very similar to Albert Pike's letter about the outcome of WWIII Since the Jews would not only probably end up losing Israel but get a bunch of their own killed, then how could greater Israel ever be the final plan of the NWO?

My response:

^ ^ ^ That WWIII letter was a fake.

Indeed, it is a fake. Pike never wrote it and scholars have deemed it a compete forgery. Plus, why trust the lies of a racist Freemason anyway?

Your response:

You are the guy who hates tribalism and nationalism and make the claim that this world is a corruption and that radical supernaturalism is the answer to our problems, which are pretty much Jesuit ideals and you expect me to believe the claims you make of a Jewish World Domination plan, despite the fact that I have completely destroyed the Greater Israel narrative already?

Is this what I'm supposed to do /u/magnora7? Listen to the advices of the Catholic, supernaturalist dude that follows Jesuit ideals? the guys who were responsible for pushing anti-Semitism like crazy everywhere? I refuse to do something that stupid, this is anti-intellectualism incarnate.

So long, Jesus. I've tried reasoning with you many times already and you clearly don't care if you keep pushing the retarted Greater Israel narratives and barely mention the Jesuit technocracy.

It's over. With this I've completely eliminated the Catholic influence in my sub. It's been completely exterminated.


So, that resposne got me banned.

Seems like you have an issue with me criticising Jews, Israel and Zionism. For that reason, why do you, like every other Zionist, use the anti-Semitism canard? Oh, I forgot, only Jesuits can be Zionists. /s

[–]HibikiBlack 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I make anti-Zionist posts the whole time. Also, you are really all over the place here...

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

gaslighting.

[–]HibikiBlack 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm imagining you editing my words and accusing me of being a Zionist then?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That's my interpretation of what you said above. And, after the break, I didn't edit your words, those are your posts.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"I have to defend my own interpretations of history by censoring and banning those I disagree with." the great sage, /u/hibikiBlack

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

No, wrong. You banned me for posting about Jesuits and being a Catholic. And even if you banned me for that reason, that there are certain supremacist Jews that seek to establish Yinon's Greater israel Plan, that gives you no right to ban me for disagreeing with you.

Oh, but then again, 'you destroyed that narrative,' yes, totally "exterminated it" by banning and censoring others and memoryholing them. That reminds me of a lot of Alan Dershowitz and his stand against so-called 'anti-Semitism.'

With this I've completely eliminated the Catholic influence in my sub. It's been completely exterminated.

[–]HibikiBlack 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

So you can read people's minds now?

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You said a Catholic Jesuit wrote Mein kampf, Neither a Catholic or Jesuit wrote Mein Kampf. The Greater Israel Project is a supremacist Jewish goal that was always a clear goal of both the Labor and Likud party.