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[–][deleted] 19 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 5 fun -  (16 children)

I was fully on board until we get to the sharing of PMs. That's a second issue that you've potentially come across. Anyway I'm not here to be a choosy beggar.

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    [–][deleted] 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (14 children)

    It's just the "private" part of "private message" that concerns me. But anyway thank you for dealing with the drama.

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      [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 9 fun9 insightful - 8 fun10 insightful - 9 fun -  (12 children)

      I don't share PMs unless people tell me to, or there's a crime involved

      Can you elaborate on the crime involved? Hypothetically speaking, if Jason were a pdf file, where in that PM did he admit to committing a sexual “crime”? Wouldn’t he know their name, as well as have at least one photo of them (or tried to get one)?

      He never said he was attempting to become romantically involved with them or was attracted to them in a romantic way (all he said was their wisdom was remarkable and he felt close with them- through talking and shared views and ideals); he basically said they were smart beyond their years, and he found it surprising how he had taken such a liking to them. He mentioned they were naive and lacked wisdom when it came to romance (they were innocent), but still felt they were wise beyond their years in other aspects, which he alluded to being the reason why he liked them; they were wise beyond their years.

      It seemed Jason would have been friends with this person regardless of their age, as the “connection” and “wisdom” is what’s constantly brought up - their wisdom being the thing that initiated their dialogues, and formed that connection - nothing degenerate.

      He didn’t mention doing or trying to do anything sexual w/ them.. didn’t say he tried to get her to meet up irl.. didn’t say he showed her a photo of his cock.. he said he didn’t even know their name (which means he didn’t ask), and didn’t even know what they look like (again, he didn’t even ask for a photo, as a pdf file?)

      So what did he do that was a crime, like if we were in real, legal court, what crime did he break in that PM? Also, if you’re banning him due to the socks situation, why even leak these PM’s and accuse him of something without allowing him to defend his name? Shouldn’t your reasoning for banning him due to the “socks thing” be enough? This seems.. extra?

      All he said was he found it remarkable, despite the brief time they communicated, how well they connected despite the age gap (as friends), how they were innocent yet wise beyond their years, and they were becoming what felt like a true friend on the internet (which he even mentions is odd - an older anarchist friends with a wise young girl), to the point he wondered if someone was trolling him or trying to honey pot him.

      And I don’t defend pdfilia whatsoever.

      If this is a crime, then I’m guilty in my 20’s (rn) and so are my irl friends for being like Jason, and for playing apex legends with this squeaker we met in a random match when only one other friend was available to play, who we introduced to the rest of our friend group, who’s based as fuck and super chill. We play with the kid at least once a week, don’t know his age but he says more crazy shit than we ever do lol.

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        [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 9 fun12 insightful - 8 fun13 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

        Wow, way to show your true colors and avoid my question all together.

        You were always so polite and kind to me. I didn’t insult you, I just asked you to please elaborate. I stated I don’t defend pedophilia. But if those PM’s are all you have, you don’t have much to make those accusations which is why I asked you to please elaborate, explain more and explain how those PM’s where indicative of a crime?

        You didn’t address my question at all.. and wow this is the first time I ever saw this side of you.. we’ve always had polite and cordial interactions.. you just blew my mind, TAM.

        Edit: & oh @ the irony of “protecting” the PoD when you just broke it as an admin and straw-manned me instead of giving me a valid reply...

        [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 7 fun -  (4 children)

        You’re right /u/d3rr. I’m out.

        Peace everyone.

        [–]LarrySwinger2 5 insightful - 8 fun5 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 8 fun -  (2 children)

        Hey Enza wanna join our private chat with Jason and a few others? I'm very close to launching an alternative forum and you're one of the people I wanted to invite. I don't want to lose you out of sight.

        Edit: this goes for people generally. The group chat is reserved for trusted folks (feel free to try regardless). The forum is already online, and anyone's free to PM me for an invitation.

        [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        I’m speaking with both Jason and d3rr right now, but sure I’d appreciate that greatly!

        Thank you!

        Edit: lol this whole post got AstroTurfed with up votes as soon as I asked TAM to elaborate and she attacked me. She rearranged the comments as this was in the top comment thread. TAM is astroturfing her own shit. Unbelievable.

        [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

        Yep, his arrival sounded the doom of saidit.

        [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

        Of course he is. If there is a no-nonsense user around here, it's u/d3rr. That's probably why he gave up being an admin.

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        Proof? Show proof, or even at least EVIDENCE, please.

        [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        What is this in regards to? Who called Jason a pedo?

        [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        TAM called Jason a pedo at the end of the OP (had nothing to do with the socks situation or his banning due to the socks situation, TAM just leaked PM’s randomly where Jason discusses a friendship he had and developed with this young girl because of her wisdom. He said he felt she was wiser than most adults here on SaidIt, yet at the same time, was so young she was still “romantically innocent” (to prove how wise in other areas she was, wiser than most adults he felt, and how much it impressed him when he found out how young and innocent she actually she was).

        They started speaking because she seemed so wise to him, neither of them knew the other’s age until later on, and even then they didn’t speak for long. Jason revealed in the leaked PMs he knew neither her name, or what she looked like, which if you think about it, if he’s an active pedophile, he would have hounded on those things, prolly edging his way in for a photo starting with her name.

        Honestly, it isn’t against the law to befriend someone younger than you on the internet if its just an innocent, platonic relationship (and calling someone a pedophile for befriending someone for how mature and wise they are, as well as how much you have in common - only to later find out how much younger they are than them, is a stretch and heavy accusation) - nothing in those PM’s broke the law or hinted at breaking the law, and I don’t defend pedophiles or pedophilia whatsoever.

        The way he described it, it reminded me of the type of friendships I made with adults when I was a kid/squeak box playing Halo 2 (my first online game and first time being exposed to adults and older kids like that online, I would speak to some adults and kids for hours - but not about anything bad, i usually enjoyed convos with high school kids and adults the most concerning life, life lessons, their experience and views on my current situation/problems or just the game itself as they were the wisest if they were actually willing to talk to me about those things which was rare. I don’t have an older brother or sister or cousin or anything). I even played neopets when I was like 10-12 and was friends with both males and females who were in their late 20’s and spoke with them on AIM. Just because they were older than me doesn’t mean they were pedophiles or talked to me inappropriately.

        Tl;dr: that’s the only thing about those leaked PM’s that TAM shared at the end of the OP for no reason, unrelated to his banning with socks - Jason was much older than the girl he was talking to TAM about, which is why TAM was accusing him of being a pedo. But that’s not what started their dialogues and he didn’t even find that out till later, and only mentioned it because it amazed him how wise they were for their age. That was it. No crime.

        Edit: and for what it’s worth, as well as to those who read this, (I honestly don’t know how genuine it is as I don’t believe TAM is stupid, and I didn’t believe TAM was capable of switching on me like that, but they did), TAM did send me a PM last night apologizing to me and explaining themselves. But ultimately apologizing to me over anything, about how they responded to my comment. They didn’t have to do that.

        I’d like to believe their apology is real and organic and they just misunderstood me and slipped up. I just don’t feel TAM is stupid, and we always were polite to one another when we spoke or interacted and they knew I wasn’t a trouble user; to randomly flip on me as an admin like that is kind of weird to me (especially with the new, troll accounts popping up at the same time using the situation to their advantage and praising and thanking TAM). But I do wanna give TAM the benefit of the doubt.

        No one said TAM had to apologize to me.

        [–]superfox 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        he shows all of the telltale signs. he hangs out at the childrens daycare. he smokes crack. he has a fkhole in the seat of his pants. he carries candy with him everywhere. he keeps a box of diapers in his briefcase.

        what more evidence do you need?