Why did Saidit go down?

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[–]Jesus 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Socks isn't a shill. He just doesn't condone right wing Zionist propaganda like a lot of other people on the site do.

[–]JasonCarswell 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

I love you Jesus but he's a shill, paid or not, for authority, the establishment, their corrupt systems, lying media, and of course harmful medical shit.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

How's the lemmy/lenny instance project coming?

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

Cassy Catch Up, 2021-05-17
https://saidit.net/s/Cassy/comments/7vve/cassy_catch_up_20210517/

I get a bit more communication from Larry than from magnora7. Optimus, and the others have been silent too. I have no idea what's going on with our indie-server on my old box. I ask the same questions and get few answers. I think we have grand plans, yet I have no clue what's going on. I'm wondering if we're even on the same page. I'm okay with things taking as long as it takes, but not being in the dark. Plus I only asked for things asap: 1) set up a simple stable Linux server (I've forgotten all the Linux I ever knew 22-26 years ago), 2) set up wiki, 3) set up Lenny, and critically 4) let me access the drive space from my Win7 (I'm crazy tight for space). Everything else is bonus without hurry. So far we only have one and a half. It took a few weeks but the server is up. The wiki is installed somewhere unconventional but it works. Larry wanted to install a non-decentralized phpBB forum to be his own project and I haven't heard a peep from him for days since. I'm not even sure what his terms or plans were, or how he was going to moderate it. I can't get a domain name to connect through my router to the server. The wiki not being accessible to the world is not critical as there is a lot of wiki-related geekery to learn and apply and of course content to draft up, and then it can be announced. Maybe I should fund-raise to buy a couple decent server boxes, a dedicated fiber line, and some local sysadmin help to guarantee results. fschmit is eager to throw money at development but he has no time for it and I don't code, couldn't knowledgeably manage that project, nor do I know any who can. Perhaps I can find someone local to help. I'm starting to think I need to tap my local resources more where people may be more reliable in person with names I know and faces I can measure up. I don't like being pushy or demanding but I don't think I've been asking too much. Yes it's all generously volunteered I.T., but herding cats with one and a half cats is not much of a movement. I'm considering quitting or something. I'm pissy and need more sleep. Maybe I just need to focus on the wiki content for a while.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Sounds like you have too many projects. I think you need to make the lenny instance work first and then build around that. If one thing works well then people will enjoy using it. It will grow and volunteer programmer help will come. Do one thing well and let everything flow from that.

edit. Good song by the way. Never heard it. Reminds me a bit of Laibach for some reason.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I agree. The more I try to focus the more I find that to do so first requires spreading out. (ie. to focus on my animation projects I need a wiki to organize myself but that wiki needs a server and knowledge about wikis, etc etc etc) IMO, the wiki is important to lay down the manifesto, goals, roadmaps, rules, guides, social and data management ideas, etc before we even open up a new forum. I have zero interest in moderating, thus I want a self-regulating community, and we can all figure out how that could work on the wiki. Further, other folks may have other ideas and/or want to co-host their own instance which I completely endorse. Decentralization and options are critical, along with inclusion for all folks from trolls to gurus, from basic beginners to Linux experts. I don't aim to replace SaidIt. I want to branch out from it. I don't want to lead, but I'm willing to seed. The goal: if I can do it on a 13+ year old box then anyone can - and everyone should. By the time programmer help comes we'll already be set up. Sure it would be nice for further things, but I think we need more help setting up. Not just me, but all beginners.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

I have zero interest in moderating, thus I want a self-regulating community

The little subs will moderate themselves. As long as the site itself is stable and can be moved easily if a server refuses to host. How are you going to handle that by they way? Will the community just seamlessly switch servers? How are you going to pay for hosting?

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

My electricity is inclusive. My server is an old PC at home. I may try to raise funds to cover the annual domains, a better server box or few for more than just a wiki and a forum (PeerTube, archive, other decentralized platforms, etc), and a dedicated fiber line. I will have 100% transparent accounting on the wiki. Anything left over I would save for emergencies (legal fees, gear, etc) and include the community in decisions and what they want next. It would be even better if I could hire a local I.T. guy or few to get things done on demand and/or code bridges for all the platforms and such.

I don't expect M7 to help. I also don't expect him to get in the way. The SaidIt API can let us bridge things within limits. Perhaps more with his permission and some clever coders. I've stated repeatedly that the goal is to branch out from SaidIt, not replace it. SaidIt can be a troll filter and proving grounds for new users that can find calmer decentralized pastures. My instance will be invite only. As a community we can determine together how all that works. Obviously other federated forum instances would be free to have a different setup. If other instances want to play whack-a-troll they can do that too.

Despite always complaining about scraping by, I've avoided asking anyone for anything thus far and even turned many down. Is the time right to beg for a new-ish server (refurbished $750)?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. Hell, he might be so brainwashed he actually believes the unimaginable drivel he posts. He is sort of entertaining that way.