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[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Regardless of the PoD (a limited measure), /u/Chipit has never been good. It seems very plausible that Chipit is a shill bot. /s/Internet/comments/7tdf/the_shills_and_bots_are_winning/tb9n

What is "breaking" the PoD? Advocating violence obviously. What else? Name calling - but what defines a name call? Call the tone police. What is "downward"? The terms are NOT clear. Do ad hominems count? The PoD is a good start and guide. That's all, so far.

There was never much need for [WOSC] moderation or mod discussions

There are reasons for this. 1) We don't know what WOSC is for. The sub is a nice idea but has no plot or driving motives and character. There is no conflict - though we don't need more drama without purpose. 2) Most SaidItors are unmotivated. Of the 43 WOSC users, how many have actually posted and commented and how many have just lurked? 3) We can talk openly (not privately) anyway. M7 is mostly good on that, though if he wasn't we wouldn't be here. 4) We can talk all we want about policies or whatever but ultimately M7 is the closed-off dictator.

everyone pitched ideas that were considered and agreed upon by everyone.

I don't even recall. Was there anything particularly notable? Is any of this worth reposting or sharing with the rest of SaidIt?

Yes, I'm trying to proliferate the use of STABs in common parlance. And I'm lazy and use short forms. "Shills, trolls, and bots" are a common problem and the "violence"/harm they're doing to our community is not insignificant.

All that automod stuff sounds terrific!!! I didn't realize it was so powerful. That makes your idea to have more users co-mod the main subs even better, more practical, and likely more effective.

I invited a couple dozen folks to co-mod about as many subs, but there's the 40-max rule and some may be getting close. Maybe we could lobby M7 to raise that number so more of us can cooperatively manage things better. OR maybe he could simply select a trusted-team of folks that he would allow power-mod exceptions for. Obviously as admin he'd always have veto power and the ability to revoke their power at any time. As I said then as now, punish the power-mod AFTER they do the crime, not preemptively. I never did the crime yet was limitted.

IMO you should draft up an automod explanation and tutorial post for everyone, not just me. I also recommend considering your 4 target audiences: 1) plug-n-play 2) basic/beginner 3) advanced 4) expert.

No, M7 is not your/our saviour and has always had serious issues. Ask D3 and others about it. I just tried to make it fucking obvious so that we could inspire change and when ready we can branch out. If necessary we can dredge up all the copious evidence that proves it again for those who forget - but that should not be necessary as the vast improvements should ideally be more than enough to motivate people to migrate to the branches.

D3 is out. "Out out." Activated only by emergencies to step in to save the baby he co-fathered. D3 is in the top 5 things about SaidIt. M7 is another story.