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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

Funding coming right from Beijing.

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Beijing? Why Beijing? They don't give a crap about SJW ideology. They just want a positive image for China. The influencers are US left, Soros money is up the chain somewhere.

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    [–]Chipit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

    Oh, I don't know if I agree with that. Beijing only started this stuff about a decade ago, while the US left has hated America pretty much since there's ever been a US left.

    Besides, Beijing isn't trying to destroy America. That's not how they operate. They want to co-opt our elites to serve them instead of the American people. If they destroy us, who's going to buy their junk? The US is the largest consumer market in the world.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

    Beijing only started this stuff about a decade ago, while the US left has hated America pretty much since there's ever been a US left.

    The left allied themselves with the PRC during the Vietnam war, and slowly lost autonomy as the Chinese Communists figured out they could easily manipulate American leftists. There's a portion of the left that was never subjugated by the CCP, but most of them are mere puppets at this point.

    I disagree that the left has always hated America, since Theodore Roosevelt (considered far-right today) was a left-wing Nationalist who did wonders for America and the Working-class. There's also Huey Long, another left-wing Nationalist — although the contemporary left likes to pretend he was a Fascist. Other than those two, I can't think of anyone else on the left who loved America.

    Besides, Beijing isn't trying to destroy America. That's not how they operate. They want to co-opt our elites to serve them instead of the American people.

    Subjugation is destruction! America will wither and die, if we don't seize her back from the reigns of the enemy! Nationalism or death! Victory or defeat! There is no other option!

    [–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

    The left allied themselves with the PRC during the Vietnam war, and slowly lost autonomy as the Chinese Communists figured out they could easily manipulate American leftists.

    OK the Chinese were going through the Cultural Revolution at the time and had little inclination for foreign adventures. The US left at the time was Soviet, only a few were Maoist. Frankly, China was poor as fuck and had not the money to fund leftists in foreign countries like the Soviets did.

    The CPC was never a factor in US politics until Bill Clinton's campaign in 1996 illegally accepted campaign donations, and won because of it. He had to pay them back, so took the lead in putting them into the WTO. That's when this nightmare started. They should never have been allowed in before democratizing. But, Blowjob Bill had a debt to pay and the corporate Democrats stood to make a mint.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

    OK the Chinese were going through the Cultural Revolution at the time and had little inclination for foreign adventures.

    That's why it took a while for them to actually seize control of the US left, rather than just being aided by them.

    The US left at the time was Soviet, only a few were Maoist.

    Yes, but these Soviets would eventually side with the PRC after the fall of the USSR.

    Frankly, China was poor as fuck and had not the money to fund leftists in foreign countries like the Soviets did.

    Another reason it took them decades .

    The CPC was never a factor in US politics until Bill Clinton's campaign in 1996 illegally accepted campaign donations, and won because of it.

    Yet another reason to vote for Ross Perot...

    That's when this nightmare started.

    Yes, that's when they seized control of the left, but the left had been aiding the PRC without much reciprocation for decades by that point. They handed them Vietnam and half of Korea, after all.

    They should never have been allowed in before democratizing.

    They should'a never been allowed in, period! The People's Republic of China is an illegitimate government; the Republic of China should'a been given that seat.

    [–]InvoluntaryHalibut 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    The CCP and the Bolsheviks were founded by the same people. The CCP was initially funded and trained by the Soviet Comintern. The same gang was also funding all the anti-vietnam propaganda being pushed in the popular culture of the 60s partly to undermine the war effort. The real cabal behind communism are people who hate nationhood. They want a post national world and they despise national cultures. They are always against traditional morality. They want a post national, post moral world bureacracy that they can control. They dont really care about china, its a means to an end. These are the people that run this country. They may appease china but they dont take orders from them.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    That's pretty much what I mean, but said a lot better.

    [–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Okay, I just thought that you focused alot on China but I dont think they are pulling the strings.

    [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    Yes, but these Soviets would eventually side with the PRC after the fall of the USSR.

    I've never heard of this one. Do you have a source?

    The People's Republic of China is an illegitimate government; the Republic of China should'a been given that seat.

    Oh come on. The ROC was a horrible government. Why do you think the Chinese people actually welcomed the communists? Because they were better than the ROC. You have a really weird view of history.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    I've never heard of this one. Do you have a source?

    They're Communists; it's safe to assume they'd align themselves with a Communist country, at least for the most party. I don't know how you'd even source that... poll every single Communist in the US?

    The PSL, the largest Communist Party in the US, for example: believes the Tiananmen massacre never happened, and promotes a lot of other CCP propaganda. The CPUSA, which is pretty much dead at this point, officially recognized the CCP as an ally.

    A notable exception is the Socialist Worker's Party, which criticized the PRC for supporting the military coup in Myanmar. The criticism stems largely from their assertion that Beijing ain't far enough left, but they seem to be much more libertarian than the PSL.

    Regardless of what they think, all leftists (and right-wingers too) support Beijing by pushing for destructive policies that will make America weak, during a time when strength is vital to our Nation's survival.

    The ROC was a horrible government.

    That's true, but it's a lot better now than it was then. It's a Democracy now — and a hell of a lot better than the US. They have two extra branches of government to deal with corruption and incompetence, meanwhile our government is defined by such issues.

    Why do you think the Chinese people actually welcomed the communists?

    They didn't "welcome" the Communists, they won a civil war because the US refused to throw its full support behind the ROC. Now, I'm usually pretty isolationist, but Communism is a global epidemic affecting every Nation on Earth — an evil ideology that seeks to destroy our very borders — and must be entirely eradicated.

    Because they were better than the ROC.

    Mao's "Great Leap Forward" alone killed more people than the Nazis — including the holocaust! Around thirty-eight million people died — that's more than even the Black Plague! The entire ideology of Communism? Nearly one-hundred-fifty million; there's a reason we call it the "Red Plague."

    I'd prefer a Nationalist dictatorship over a Communist dictatorship. I won't personally support either, but I'd prefer the former.

    [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    They're Communists; it's safe to assume they'd align themselves with a Communist country, at least for the most party.

    That's just not true. There are all kinds of communists, and they fight among each other all the time. You've heard of the Krondstadt Rebellion?

    They didn't "welcome" the Communists, they won a civil war because the US refused to throw its full support behind the ROC.

    Yeah they did. The ROC was so horrible that the communists were actually an improvement. You don't know the history, I can tell.

    Mao's "Great Leap Forward" alone killed more people than the Nazis

    Which happened long after the communist takeover. You're very kind but you're out of your depth here.

    [–]InvoluntaryHalibut 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    I dont agree.

    The people in power here— let’s call them Yankees because that’s sort of what they are, NY progressives— they control wall street and therefore they control our corrupt government. They control alot of financial markets in europe too. They control the price of money, wrap your head around that. They have formed an alliance with China/CCP. They took all our 401ks and pension funds and invested them overseas in Chinese factories, thus fundin our nations economic demise.

    The chinese are deep in bed with these progressive globalists and so they scratch each others back for now. China thinks it has the winning hand in this game and they can write their own ticket. They don’t care how these globalists are destroying the west. They will get burned eventually for getting in bed with these globalists. I dont see China as being the number one threat, although they are currently aligned with the tyrannical globalists that are running the shitshow.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You say you disagree, and immediately go on to prove my point LOL.