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[–]Zapped 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Ok. I've been kicking back eating some popcorn over the past week or two while I watch how this plays out. I'll throw out my opinion. I don't comment on the obvious troll/shill posts because as some have said, it only reinforces the bad behavior. This person or group needs the noise provided by those who react to them. It doesn't matter if it's a shill, troll, or someone with a vendetta (or group of these types). I suspect, as M7 said, that there are older, normal seeming sleeper accounts used to herd users in a way to create chaos or in-fighting. I personally haven't ruled out anyone, but there are a few I suspect to be sleeper accounts and a few I am fairly sure aren't. It only benefits the trolls to have these unproven accusations against each other within these kinds of discussions. I also suspect the troll is accusing his own accounts of being complicit to add even more confusion. I have noticed certain "patterns" with certain users, but without more than suspicion, I will continue to respectfully interact with others as long as they show the same respect.

With that said, I do think that because this is a privately run site open to the public, the owner/head admin has the final say and authority to do as they want and anyone disrupting the place with demands and stunts should be banned. Most of us are guests here, even if some here have gone above to enriched this site with their contributions and building skills. I think it says a lot about M7 that we can have open discourse about how things are handled here and even harsh criticism is tolerated. Discussion like this is good for the site while it is still relatively small, but the fighting and mudslinging can only help the one(s) trying to disrupt the conversation and cohesiveness even amongst differing points of view. I don't have the skill set or desire for moderating a website and I have't heard anything so far that I think needs to be implemented, but I like that people here are willing to discuss these things.

You know, Pyramid of Debate and all that stuff.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Insightful comment, thank you.

I can't speak about the other drama, whether it's one or more, or different factions, or different factions under some organization - all I can do is speak for myself, and I'm not in league with any of them in any way. I can't even speak for all of DioJr's actions because the goof deleted his history - a cover up and/or a childish tantrum.

I make no demands. I'm asking for M7 to restore DioJr and employ a better system. I'm trying to protest as effectively (and thus as respectfully) as I can. I know no other way and am open to suggestions.

As for "disrupting the place", I would argue that I'm hardly that among so much inconsistency, hostile debates, psyops, and incendiary post on current events.

" I think it says a lot about M7 that we can have open discourse about how things are handled here and even harsh criticism is tolerated. "

I can wholeheartedly applaud and second that. I've never called for him to step down or any such infantile thing.

" I have't heard anything so far that I think needs to be implemented "

I'd value your feedback on this idea for fairness on SaidIt, and easing of magnora7's burdens.

[–]Zapped 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I was only speaking of disruption in the area of the trolls/shills, and I do think it is more than one person, but who knows. I do not want any discussion like you have begun to get derailed by them. I fully support this post, even if I am not persuaded by it. I only hope people will begin to think before they respond to comments from these trolls. They are using new tricks to stay relevant.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you.

I agree.

Most alarming to me is their attempts at psychological manipulation and demotivation.