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[–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (22 children)

Node, you've been here since October 20, 2017. I've been here since November 15, 2018, well before Snow showed up and we're nothing alike.

Possibly related disturbers:
/u/Airbus320 = saiditter for 3 months
/u/boeing737 = saiditter for 4 months

[–]Node 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (21 children)

IKR? That poser only modded 3 subs! lol (kidding)

I'm pretty used to the trolls and retards, as a denizen of the now defunct 'armpit of the internet'. But note someone is trying to revive it: https://www.voat.xyz/v/all

The groups who try to destroy a site are a different issue than just being mentally defective. I'm glad it's not my problem. In M7s place I'd be inclined to ban all those uvxx accounts, and all the other alts. The problem is the normal users who don't know what's going on think it might be an attack on a fellow normal. Then you get all kinds of drama that erodes trust. Especially if you allow the banned user to make new accounts with full powers.

Then they're free to spread propaganda to get sympathy from regular users and cast doubt on the admins. IMO, new accounts should need to earn their commenting, voting, and posting rights from the existing user base.

Don't know the other one, but /u/Airbus320 seems okay in my experience. Although I feel like I'm flying blind on saidit. User tags and mouseover account info popups are an incredibly tool for those of us lacking an eidetic memory.

[–]LarrySwinger2 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

IMO, new accounts should need to earn their commenting, voting, and posting rights from the existing user base.

How are users going to earn their rights if they can't comment or post? I think barriers to entry are a bad idea, because its bars the contributors as well. I, for one, wouldn't be here if such a system were used. Contributing means giving – I can't stand needing to earn that. I think the system used on Hacker News is a step up. They have downvotes like on Reddit, which I think is a good thing by itself. The difference is that members gradually get more voting power as they establish themselves (both for post and comment voting). This makes infiltration more difficult, but still allows everyone to participate.

Regarding /u/Airbus320: I've seen him post insightful comments, but now that I'm looking at his account overview, I do get the impression he's a troll or paid shill. No idea why else he'd start spamming like that.

[–]bobbobbybob 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Regarding /u/Airbus320: I've seen him post insightful comments, but now that I'm looking at his account overview, I do get the impression he's a troll or paid shill

total shit stirrer

[–]Node 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

The difference is that members gradually get more voting power as they establish themselves (both for post and comment voting). This makes infiltration more difficult, but still allows everyone to participate.

Exactly.

[–]LarrySwinger2 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Oh, once more regarding /u/Airbus320. Turns out I was just confusing him for /u/AirSeddit88. The latter's an actual contributor, the former just spams and has been here for only 3 months.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Now I see the difference. Airbus must have made a comment at some point that made an impression on me, but you wouldn't guess that by his last page of comments.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

^

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Its all u/boeing737's alt

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Nice try.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly.

Why has /u/Airbus320 made 20 comments, all stirring the pot, in my post here?

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

😡

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Case in point.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, until yesterday /u/Airbus320 was on my /s/friends for being insightful.

IMO, keep the playing field even - but give the players different colour shirts they earn.

Keep in mind, age and/or high points do not necessarily mean high quality, so M7 and/or the community can determine who is worthy of the top-tier/advisor status, or whatever we call it. AND because it's all open, people can fade, make mistakes, etc etc etc and lose that status. For more on the tiers see the chart.

No extra powers, just earned visible respect.

It could go the other way too. People who troll accumulate downward minor infractions (with expiration) until they strike out. Major strikes are another thing. IMO strike out should literally mean strike out and not be censored/removed unless it's illegal content.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Airbus has hounded my comments all day and Boeing commented once and PMed me for the first time ever - about vegans and eating meat.

Good news for Voat folks. Has that site been posted? They're not my crowd but I don't begrudge them that. I wonder if they're using a Reddit/SaidIt fork?

Drama handled by adults should be self evident as truth and logic should win. If status badges or something were earned and awarded then people could listen to those benchmark voices of reason openly. Secrecy is not helpful. Here's more. Maybe badges with strikes within a limited time frame might be helpful too. Unless they've expired I still have at least 2 strikes from almost 2 years ago. I've chosen to ignore the threats and be my authentic self regardless.

One of the biggest strengths/weaknesses of SaidIt is the anonymous aliases. I have no ideas to help this other than to add the age of the account beside a user's name. There's space.

I was careful about my labels for those 2. I don't know if they're just malcontents or related to the other psyops. I had Airbus in my /s/friends until his hyperactivity in my post here - and digging up stuff around SaidIt from a year ago as if it were incriminating.

It's impossible for anyone to be omnipotent on SaidIt anymore.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Also, /u/bald-janitor PMed me yesterday and again today with complete nonsense, like they're bots or something. First times.

I can quote them if anyone cares. Because it's nonsense I don't feel like I'll break anyone's confidence.

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

You are sounding strange now, lets go away

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

You are sounding strange now, lets go away

How very peculiar that you used that "go away" phrase.

Here's the PM correspondence from /u/bald-janitor:

bald-janitor   its time we all go away jason

[–] from bald-janitor sent 16 hours ago

They don't want us here anymore

[–] to bald-janitor sent 16 hours ago

Go to where?

Who are they?

What's up with all your TEAM BRO'HOOD comments?

[–] from bald-janitor sent 15 hours ago

You ask to many questions

[–] from bald-janitor sent 46 minutes ago

8kun

They are evil people

Those are ancient pastas

[–] to bald-janitor sent 31 minutes ago

What are you even talking about?

[–]Comatoast 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

8kun=imageboard. Ancient pastas (referring to TEAM BRO'ERHOOD I assume)=old copied/pasted shit from there. Is he indicating that we're being attacked by 8kun? If that's the case, this whole thing can be resolved by responding with brigades of lower-case one word racial slur responses?It looks too overly thought out to be from there, overly Reddit-y.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the info!

Just look at the history of /u/bald-janitor.

I also wonder if he's replacing his old comments with that copypasta because it looks like I actually voted for a couple of those.

Ping, on the chance /u/magnora7 doesn't know.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Lets all be careful

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They all are trying to trick us Jason!