I'm doing things differently from here on out.

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[–]deleted 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

magnora might not want me to publish it.

Interesting. Any clue or argument as to why not to add the feature?

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I'd have to ask for his input. Make a post at s/gov and maybe we can discuss it!

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (15 children)

I started a banned list.

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/wiki/BannedFromReddit

M7 didn't like documenting bans as he felt they made SaidIt look bad and I'd assume censor-happy. That's ridiculous and IMO he should have leaned into it, warts and all, and defended the concept that freedom of speech does not mean a free for all where asstrolls shit all over the place. Better to make examples of them, IMO, though that may not be a legit concept.

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freedom of speech does not mean a free for all where asstrolls shit all over the place.

Agreed. It seems some moderation from the community is needed. Instead of a downvote, the community should be given another kind of vote option for shitposts that aren't insightful or funny (as long as the posts remain).

Seems your list was edited by diogenesjunior, who is seemingly MIA

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Wasn't that the block user button, or hide tab next to the text? You have the freedom to shield yourself from stupidity, but not if you're too dumb to figure out how.

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My reference is to NOT censor the posts, so that I and others can see them. Understand?

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Ignoring it is your personal vote against wanting to see it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am obviously not at Saidit with the hope of creating an echo chamber for myself, even if one could do that. Why would anyone spend time at Saidit whilst wanting to censor the posts for themselves? That's against core principles of the site. There's no need to be here if you want to censor posts you don't like. I am sure others do it, but it's not in line with the Saidit ethos regarding free speech &c. And I am obviously not here because I agree with anyone. What's the point of that? (Numerous websites have material I agree with; I can visit those if I wish. Saidit helps offer alternative points of view. Blocking or censoring anything here would be ridiculous, if we are to appreciate the mission of the site.)

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

No

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I know, Airbus. It's not your fault....

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

DioJr was banned by M7, unjustly IMO, with what little I know.

Which list?

Full disclosure: I have yet to read this post and the 292 comments, so I'm not in the loop, nor for much of the last few months.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The ban is surprising.

You link to this list, which has a 'revision' by Dio at the bottom, from 5 months ago:

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/wiki/bannedfromreddit

Indeed - the 292 comments on this post seem to indicate that there is a good number of users at Saidit who are very interested in it's development

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I stopped bothering with that list long ago, mostly because I felt it was inaccurate due to the countless things I'll never know about. Finding out from M7 was impossible. Everything else was luck. I had no interest in diving for a shit list few would read. The wikis on SaidIt are VERY under utilized.

I suspect I told DioJr about the list and it seems he added:
/s/ice_poseidon2 ([Banned from Saidit on August 17, 2020]

He was/is a good one IMO.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Yes - I agree. He often had interesting things to say - one of the smarter users on Saidit (even if he and I didn't necessarily agree, the discussions were interesting and kept me engaged. [Amelia noted that she wasn't sure why he deleted items and left. Perhaps there are changes in store that one admin might not be telling other admins, but who knows.]).

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

He was banned yet we could still PM somehow, or maybe he wasn't fully banned yet.

He showed me a few things that seemed like M7 was having another typical irrational meltdown, however, what I saw was far from the whole story as it didn't include the beginning.

DioJr was not verbose, was obviously pissed. Possibly hiding something, but that's pure speculation. He admits that it was bad form to delete his content out of spite, something like "If I can't have it then no one can." But before it was like that M7 was allegedly freaking on him, which began the deletion in order to appease the Monarch7, to no avail.

He's moved to to Ruqqus I think.

This is what I recall off hand with some possible errors (I'm too tired to dig it up). I don't think I'm betraying any confidences.

I wanted to find out more by making some posts that provocatively mentioning his banishment, so that I'd have to answer questions in more detail confronting M7 for answers. But between my back, distractions, and some big heavy posts I'm afraid I didn't raise the stink as I'd intended. Reflecting I should have trusted my gut and charged in rather than be timid and afraid of backing the wrong horse on the off chance he was actually guilty.

More importantly, for common knowledge I wanted to know if we could restore the stuff he deleted. I can only guess it would be tricky, perhaps more so with time. Maybe /u/d3rrr can answer.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for this. Perhaps because M7 has been coping with Texas electricity and water problems, and his work &c, he has not commented publically on much of the 292 comments thread with Amelia and several alt accounts here and elsewhere. He'll be back and there will be time to ask him again. I suspect he won't mind offering more info. Amelia - as you know - engaged with a number of questions, and indicated that deleted items are long gone, thou as you note, /u/d3rrr will also know how to anwer that. Saidit is on a server that likely has redundant backups, but only /u/d3rrr and M7 and perhaps Amelia, will know how redundant those are (eg. if it's a cloud service with redundancies or if are there tapes, and if so when are they reused).

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

...And I wonder if this is one of his last comments?:

https://saidit.net/s/corruption/comments/79h1/free_speech/rham