I'm Un-Modding From My Subs About Power, Corruption & Lies

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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

u/Earendil and I've exchanged lengthy PMs recently about our agreement that he should not bave been banned, and how we've disagreed on nearly everything in the past (and perhaps still do), but we agree he should not have been banned. He, you, and a few others (inc. /u/diogenesjunior) here on Saidit can at least carry on a debate, rather than just send insults, and he'll be missed. /u/JasonCarswell's contributions will hopefully continue, even it not as a mod. I sometimes note that I am not sure how long I'll remain, and as I login this morning I see only alt-right misinformation and propaganda on the front page (default subs), and think I don't want to comment on them today (which I'm sure doesn't matter a whole lot). In any event, it's interesting to read the dialogue below between /u/JasonCarswell and /u/TheAmeliaMay, which is the most informative development today on Saidit. I hope those of us who don't mind arguing on this site will remain.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Well written, Socks. Amelia has banned like 10% of the active users though.

This isn't reddit, we can't just toss away people willy nilly and people came here to get away from that.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

That's not cool. Tell me/us more. We need a serious review/discussion outlining whatever criteria are being employed to ban users. Are they ex-Voat folks who prefer to troll? Are they humans who occasionally dive in the gutter but don't dwell there? Who, what, why, how?

The fact that we don't know these things nor have a place (ie. town square) where we can easily find out this kind of thing is a travesty. My new seed ideas address these, and perhaps we can build a better forum.

It was in my forthcoming plans, but maybe it's already time to create /s/PhoenixForum™, /s/PhoenixUtopia™, /s/PhoenixRules™, /s/PhoenixGUI™, and/or /s/PhoenixDev™ to plant some dreams, build on ideas, and start making the next big thing, openly and democratically.

A better name than "Phoenix Forum" might be in order. Perhaps we should have a SaidIt contest for the best next-gen forum name?

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

"Amelia has banned like 10% of the active users though."

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That's not cool.

A simple review of the mod logs of the subs he controls shows him only banning 2 users for spam/porn. Am I missing something here?

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sort of. Musk stated fake news for some reason. I haven't gone back to familiarize myself with all of last weeks SaidIt drama, or before. I was deep in pain or my long posts or family drama. So I don't know what Musk is referring to specifically.

My comment had dual meanings. It's not cool if true, it's not cool if fake news.

If I'm not mistaken /u/TheAmeliaMay had admin privileges to deal with spam. During M7's Texan Winter absence Amelia was trying to deal with the mounting problems the best way possible under the circumstances.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Amelia has banned like 10% of the active users though.

That's one-hundred percent a lie. You're spreading misinformation, and it's obvious why. Earendil, Jason, and I are trying to work together to help improve SaidIt — but you're just making the situation worse. Try to meaningfully contribute, or keep your mouth shut.

There's a clear divide growing between those who want to reform SaidIt — like Earendil and I — and those who want to tear it down — like LXXXVIII. I thought you'd be happy that I admitted I was wrong, and want to do better, but apparently not.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I appreciate your insightful input. My contributions will soon be of a very different nature. I hope you'll check it out and chose to participate. Having your contrarian input would be very helpful. Utopian dreams need dystopian holes poked through it to better improve the Utopia, etc etc etc - a cycle that can manifest a more practical understanding and navigation of reality. Futhermore, I expect we'll find much more common ground in some of these projects that are not about politics and arguing debates, but about common ground, alternatives, and solutions, including next-gen forums and original media content.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I decided to reverse u/Earendil's ban, although he dragged discussion down the Pyramid of Debate a few times. We talked it out and decided to let it go. He said he wanted to do better, and I agreed to talk with people before banning them.

I still don't know what's up with dio.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Freedom! Thank you!

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No, thank you.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is brilliant.