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    [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (29 children)

    You always pass

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      [–]jykylsin2034 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

      Immoral too, watching porn is a disgrace to God

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            [–]bobbobbybob 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

            The liberals are here, inciting, posting straight up threats of violence and demanding porn. yawn. we made it

            [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

            We allow s/incest

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              [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

              Pedophobe

              [–]Caamib[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

              It won't survive without actual freedom of speech. Check my posts, I said this several times. Also, are pics of scantily dressed 15 year-old girls "borderline CP"? If you believe that you're fucking retarded.

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                [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                yet, here it is, surviving.

                [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                For now. Voat also didn't die immediately but became irrelevant long before its death due to bad policies Saidit seems to emulate.

                [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                Reddit has crazy admins, Voat had crazy users. Democratic tyranny is still tyranny. Saidit has complicated rules incompatible with growth, and is easy to kill.

                A monarchy, a democracy and a theocracy constitutional monarchy. All rather different.

                [–]Caamib[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                Reddit now has crazy users as well, since all reasonable users were chased away. Most of Reddit user base are left wing nutcases now.

                Saidit's audience is also full of right wing morons, kinda like Voat. Half of these morons who attack me for being a "pedophile" because I am attracted to teen and pubescent girls probably believe that their local pizza stores house pedophile rings.

                [–]Bigs 22 insightful - 7 fun22 insightful - 6 fun23 insightful - 7 fun -  (10 children)

                Dumb argument.

                I think many already understand that "CHILD PORN!!!" is a weapon used to attack and censor. Pinning such a target on our ass is pretty dumb.

                Let's not?

                [–]Caamib[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

                If you actually had some reading comprehension you would have seen that I made a difference between CP and what was posted as jailbait on Reddit itself in 2010. R/jailbait didn't have CP is what I was saying. If society somehow insanely made these the same during the last 10 years. then you're playing by their rules and there is no actual difference between here and Reddit. And if there is no difference then the bigger player always wins.

                It's like me making my own Facebook with same rules as those as what the original Facebook has (let's disregard copyright for this comparison)- why would people use my Facebook? They already have a bigger Facebook.

                [–]Bigs 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                I have reading comprehension, in fact I get paid a lot of munny for writing. It's what i do :P

                And a big, major part of my skill-set is the understanding of how most people don't read, don't engage their brain or think things through. My point stands; you'd be pinning a big fat target on our ass.

                Example - when there was a particularly intense period of pedo hate in the UK, a pediatrician had their surgery attacked. But you think the average numnut out there has the "reading comprehension" to know that "jailbait" is not kiddie porn?

                The fucking term MEANS under-age ffs!

                *shakes head

                [–]Caamib[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                But you think the average numnut out there has the "reading comprehension" to know that "jailbait" is not kiddie porn?đ

                Um, you could show them by moderating it properly. Don't allow kiddie porn but allow sexy teen and pubescent girls. This is what Reddit's jailbait did. The problem with Reddit's jailbait wasn't that people thought it was the same as kiddie porn, but that Overton window actually started moving to the point of people seeing scantily dressed sexy 16 yo girls as morally wrong.

                [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                again, fuck off back to the sewers. There's plenty of sites that serve your degeneracy

                [–]Drewski 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

                You may have genuine intentions, but it comes off as concern trolling. There is no reason Saidit needs to host content with underage sexualized children in the interest of free speech. There are some clearly defined rules here, and if you don't like them you can always go elsewhere. For my part, I think the rules are fair and make for better discussions.

                [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                I don't really care how I come off to you. My point was pretty clearly expressed and the jailbait thing is just one example. If your community believes almost all the crazy things Reddit does then how are you better than Reddit? It's the same problem Voat had. You think you'll be more respectable if you play by their rules. But it doesn't work that way.

                [–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                You're really pushing "What no kiddie porn, I thought you were cool." manipulation tactic hard.

                Jokes on you, everyone's here because they don't care if their opinions are cool or not. It won't work.

                It's Operation Creep everytime with you perverts. We're adults here, we see it. Go back to the teen boards on reddit where you can groom dumb kids with your "just a little change to your rules here, just a little encroachment on your boundaries there. Oh you don't like that, you must be uptight. You need to work through your issues" nastiness.

                [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                I really don't know how to respond to something this idiotic except that I'm amazed that someone can write something this cooky.

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                  [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

                  I am a degenerate for having normal sexual attractions all sane men had throughout history and defending free speech? Gee, are you crazy.

                  Btw, check https://mapbiology.wordpress.com/

                  [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                  There's a difference between knowing that an young woman / girl is attractive and putting her up on a pedastle to be leered and commented at - especially knowing that indecent trolls exist who will say anything from unkind stuff to sexual stuff to obscene stuff to downright nasty stuff.

                  It's simply an invitation to drag the conversation downward.

                  FYI, I was going to start posting to /s/PinUps after M7 showed me how to fix some things for the CSS. It was going to be a classy joint with heavy moderation completely subjectively implemented by me. I never did get the CSS help and I've since lost interest. I won't give up that sub in case I get my interest back. But maybe you can start your own.

                  [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

                  There's a difference between knowing that an young woman / girl is attractive and putting her up on a pedastle to be leered and commented at - especially knowing that indecent trolls exist who will say anything from unkind stuff to sexual stuff to obscene stuff to downright nasty stuff.

                  So what? They say the same things about 18 year-olds as well. Girls who are teen and pubescent are sexual creatures who masturbate and have sex. Pretending it isn't so is ridiculous.

                  It's simply an invitation to drag the conversation downward.

                  It depends on the moderation rules for what kind of speech is but such threads usually do just express admiration in their comments. They're not for some deep discussions lol.

                  [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

                  No one is saying teens aren't doing that.

                  Our culture has millions of people living in cities beside neighbours they don't even know. Children and teens need to be protected from harms and exploitation so there are age limits, regardless of the individual. You may argue about what the age should be, but there's not much of an argument that kids don't need protections.

                  " It depends on the moderation rules... "

                  Who has the time or inclination or fairness to moderate properly? And who's to judge what's fair?

                  [–]Caamib[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                  I am not against protections for kids necessarily, but kids are already protected from things like rape, kidnapping or assault just like adults are. Claiming that they're just too dumb to consent and are somehow retroactively "victims" in completely voluntary and happy relationships is wrong.

                  Who has the time or inclination or fairness to moderate properly? And who's to judge what's fair?

                  I really don't know, but if rude comments below the pictures of teen girls are your main problem that's not much of a problem. One can just choose to grow a skin and not read them.

                  [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                  Or simply not feature them at all.

                  [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  Yes, maybe. Maybe not having comments would be the best idea. But the issue aren't comments to such pics... the issue is how anti-free speech and unreasonable the right is. It's as bad as left.

                  [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                  you are a degenerate for wanting it on someone else's discussion site. Push your perversions elsewhere,

                  [–]Caamib[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                  I'd like to make my own subs here after 2 week period without being censored. I don't want to interfere with how somebody leads their own subs, but I don't want to be censored on mine. I wouldn't publish anything that would break US laws.

                  [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                  yeah, I'd like to see you banned today. you are a cancer

                  [–]GooglyEyes 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

                  WW3 has started. It's an information war. And you know what they say; the first casualty of war is /jailbait.

                  Srsly though...allowing jailbait content just gives your enemies another surface to attack. A lot of people on voat were like me, disillusioned libertarian. We love the idea of free speech for all, but it's a huge challenge right now to keep a site up that just has simple political dissent, let alone trying to fight for the pedos as well.

                  [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  Agreed.

                  This is a war of information and ideologies.

                  We are a target. No need to make the target bigger.

                  Focus on the top issues. Aim for the heads.

                  Don't buy into the partisan and divisive bullshit.

                  [–]Caamib[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

                  Your problem is that you think you'll make yourself more respectable if you ban such content. What you'll actually do is you'll make yourself less relevant, just like Voat did.

                  [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                  no, it is because we are a debating site, with free speech. Get your masturbation material elsewhere

                  [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                  I am a no fapper and it would be easy to find much better fap material on dark web. The point is freedom of expression. Reddit is also a debating site yet they had r/jailbait back when free speech meant something.

                  [–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  this is a debating site, not a masturbation site

                  [–]fishbox 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (9 children)

                  This is a long winded way of saying you want to fuck children.

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                    [–]TheAwful-Truth 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

                    What do you define as "children" ? I'd fuck all girls above 11-12. These are no longer biologically children.

                    Sure, I could go to Dark Web now and watch 9 year-olds getting fucked, but I'm not asking for that to be here.

                    I'm currently planning to meet a 15 year-old girl and am lying to her that I'm 19 (I'm actually 29). Could I get advice on this from Saidit?

                    I sincerely hope that you are just trolling.

                    If you are serious, get psychiatric help.

                    [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                    I am not trolling and will certainly not be looking for psychiatric help for being a healthy male.

                    [–]ballooon 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                    Discussing controversial (usually political) topics has nothing to do with the sexualization of children. Only the latter is not allowed in the ToS. I don't agree with this being a slippery slope, as reddit just does what the advertisers want. If this means saidit is not pro-free speech, I'll still take it. If you want an online community that includes /jailbait, you can go make one, just as I am free to leave when/if saidit does not meet my expectations anymore.

                    [–]Caamib[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    Discussing controversial (usually political) topics has nothing to do with the sexualization of children.

                    Actually, it does when your "sexualization of children" includes girls as old as 17, despite aoc being as low as 11 in some countries of the world.

                    I don't agree with this being a slippery slope, as reddit just does what the advertisers want.

                    Of course it's a slippery slope. Once RTeddit banned jailbait it gradually became more of totalitarian shithole. Saidit seems to be pretty much same about everything aside from right-wing politics.

                    If you want an online community that includes /jailbait, you can go make one, just as I am free to leave when/if saidit does not meet my expectations anymore.

                    Fair enough, I am just here to express my opinion. It's not my site.

                    [–]Minedwe 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

                    Just because it's not technically CP doesn't make it not bad, retard. Having morality doesn't violate "YOUR FREEDOMS!!!" to jerk off to little girls. I really don't understand your so-called argument here- "If you don't allow borderline CP subs, then you'll magically transform into a left-wing zionist communist" is quite possibly the most laughable "argument" I've ever seen presented.

                    [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

                    Just because it's not technically CP doesn't make it not bad, retard.

                    Why?

                    Having morality doesn't violate "YOUR FREEDOMS!!!" to jerk off to little girls.

                    Banning pics of young girls of reproductive age isn't moral, it's cucked, crazy and retarded.

                    really don't understand your so-called argument here- "If you don't allow borderline CP subs, then you'll magically transform into a left-wing zionist communist" is quite possibly the most laughable "argument" I've ever seen presented.

                    Wow, this is one of the biggest strawmen I have ever seen. Are you mentally ill or something? That was not what I was saying at all. My argument wasa "If you don't allow jailbait subs (ie, free speech) you'll not so magically transform into a right-wing shouting factory and die just like Voat did".

                    [–]Minedwe 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                    Transforming into a right wing shouting factory was not why Voat died. It died due to funding issues, afaik. Just getting that out of the way.

                    Banning pics of young girls of reproductive age isn't moral, it's cucked, crazy and retarded.

                    No, it isn't you pedophile freak. The crazy retarded cuck in this situation is, in fact, you.

                    [–]Caamib[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                    I am aware of why Voat died. It had funding issues because nobody wanted to fund a site that was going nowhere. This site will end up the same. You don't need an entire Reddit clone to create a site that has 95 percent of the same policies. It leads to your site being about nothing more than right wing politics and memes. No actually controversial content can be discussed.

                    For example, I'm currently planning to meet a 15 year-old girl and am lying to her that I'm 19 (I'm actually 29). Could I get advice on this from Saidit? I haven't found any sub where I could find such advice here.

                    The crazy retarded cuck in this situation is, in fact, you.

                    Of course. I'm a crazy cuck for wanting to fuck girls of reproductive age who were giving birth at that very age for all human civilization. That makes me a cuck. Jesus christ, the right is more brain dead than left is. At least the left knows what it wants and sticks together. You deserve what you got now. You deserve the boot in your face.

                    [–]Minedwe 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                    I'm currently planning to meet a 15 year-old girl and am lying to her that I'm 19 (I'm actually 29). Could I get advice on this from Saidit?

                    I can advise you to blow your head off, you sick freak.

                    [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                    What is sick about this? If it weren't for morons like you, morons that created these insane norms in today's society, I wouldn't even have to lie.

                    [–]Trajan 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                    Is Saidit even focussed on free speech? I don't see that mentioned in its about content. It seems more about encouraging productive debate, which certainly can include controversial topics within the bounds of legality. The problem is that a lot of people seem to believe that Saidit is or could be a bastion of free speech, and that's not going to happen. Saidit doesn't need to be tolerant of pederasty to be a useful alternative to the hive minds and political censorship of Reddit and social media. If anything it'd probably be a better place if, over time, the free speech crowd moves on and if there's still a sizeable number of people interested in discussing topics beyond free speech and conspiracy theories.

                    [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                    You're another one who doesn't understand my point. You can't just create productive debate on demand. If you limit your site to a right wing political site and nothing else (just like Voat did) you will die. I am a right winger myself so I'm not criticizing you on that issue, just that your site focus is too narrow.

                    [–]killerjavi98 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                    I think there's places in the Dark Web for people like you.

                    [–]Caamib[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    I know. But I'm talking about a Reddit alternative here. Even Reddit had a jailbait sub 10 years ago. Now all of our culture is moving in a degenerate direction where people believe girls start being interested in sex and attractive at 18. That's obviously not the case.

                    Sure, I could go to Dark Web now and watch 9 year-olds getting fucked, but I'm not asking for that to be here. I was clear in what I'm asking for.

                    [–]RM-Goetbbels 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

                    Voat didn't die, it's just taking a vacation. We're all attending seminars on how to properly holocaust jews and oppress niggers.

                    I chair the holocaust seminars but I'm only on a sub committee for oppressing niggers. There is only so much patriarchal shitlording a nazi can do.......you know? I try but..........

                    [–]369 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

                    I've come across exactly two people ever coming here that made me think, "wow, this place is a lot better than Reddit or Voat".
                    I now see neither of those people here anymore.

                    You're no exception, but you did get a little closer than most would.
                    See, you noticed a symptom but conflated it with the disease. What was really happening was groups like feminists (okay, SJWs in general) began being used like the useful idiots they are to corner people willing to say what's true. They pushed these people in to places like TheRedPill, pizzagate, conspiracy, kotakuinaction and a few more. Now, not all of these groups are flawless; in fact, that's actually the entire point. They do indeed have glaring faults and that's what made boxing "undesirables" in to them advantageous.
                    People as described got walled off slowly from the rest of Reddit so they'd herd themselves in to the mentioned subs. In so doing, they found people like themselves, but they also took the bait. The point was to lock them in and slowly start quarantining them and eventually banning them, all so they'd stay away from the target audience: the ones that would still vote for Biden (no, there's a lot more to this, but why not add a little comedy in here and there?). Remember when Reddit started threatening people that try avoid bans?...

                    You noticed another aspect in addition to the ones I mentioned before: Feminists DETEST men and they hate that more youthful women are more valuable than them so they do everything in their power to devalue said women. Historically, this has meant clamoring for tighter restrictions on age of consent, like statutory rape (which, I'll admit that there's a lot more to it than this and that we've progressed as a species, morality, yadda yadda. I don't disagree there), which is used widely to destroy young mens' lives (check the history; don't take my word for it), doing a bunch of cringey shit to make themselves look younger (shorter hair, vibrant colors, showing more cleavage, which all demoralizes women of all ages) and gate keeping young women having children. To explain that last one a little further, bitter old feminists have convinced young women that they don't want children, got all of their daughters birth control and insisted abortions are free and access is plentiful.
                    In short, these feminists were exploited to do the bidding of the pricks that want to ensure the mating pool is tainted, that tensions arise and corrode relations between sexes (destroying peer bonding). These demoralized young men, which were targeted to ensure certain people stay in office, were used to continue slow roll outs of increased taxes and foreign aid and all of that fun stuff.

                    I could break down the other ones, like how men aren't supposed to develop sexual strategies, otherwise they'll find out how to build testosterone, avoid depression (and therefore pharmaceuticals), they'll find out how to get more resources (and have more partners; meaning more babies!), they'll stop playing in to the whole wage slavery bullshit because young men would become entrapaneurs again (understanding how to develop sexual straegies translates to developing financial strategies, ie. success = success and the goyim mustn't know) and, finally, they'll stop doom-fapping all of the time, which just plays in to the feedback loop. Naturally, they were escorted to r/TRP
                    Yet again, feminists and their brigade of simps marched down Reddit Avenue and shrieked down the men that always fucked the girl they liked (or, in reality, who just probably never gave them any time of day...) for daring to not submit to the new matriarchal order. But, that's not all. There are plenty of other entities that can't afford men to organize and find success in groups, especially when they start sharing successful strategies. There's incentive all across the board from this, from the financial industry to the entertainment industry. More competent and resourceful men means more competition, hence Feminism never being organized by women...


                    Aside from all of that, as I said, you were on the right track. The real pitfall of the Reddit system is the propensity for farming for consensus. It's a great social tool. Vanity distracts from the allure of consensus, so they assign everyone an identity, upon which veracity hinges, and insist they "vote" (which is fake... just like in real life) on what they enjoy the most. Unfortunately, all this does is solidify what the cattle learn vicariously, so they never bother to deviate, which just cements both sides that we've just described.

                    So, yeah, the whole Reddit thing is just a psychological operation that's replacing media. These systems use a more interactive feedback loop than the Legacy Media, which was its progenitor... which, you guessed it, is entirely sponsored by the CIA and their bundle of homosexual think tanks.

                    The good news is that some of /ourguys/ hang out with us in these places. Good luck spotting them though.

                    [–]socks 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                    Excellent points

                    [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                    3 Questions:

                    1) Who were the two?

                    2) How would you design social media to avoid the pitfalls of addiction, psyops, etc?

                    3) What do you think of this: /s/mensrights/comments/77b9/apa_div_51_asks_regarding_men_a_question_paul/ ?

                    [–]369 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                    1) Enza and someone else I'm not going to mention.

                    2) I don't think you're taking the right approach. I think it's best to recognize ways in which our addictions can help us and then find ways to innovate them which satiate but also remedy the pitfalls. Preventative methods seem to not work for some reason, but I can't pinpoint it. I'll relent that I haven't really put that much thought in to this though.
                    This is sort of an area of interest to me, so I guess what I can say that just might be of some substance is that removing vanity seems to have the most positive effect. We succeeded in this respect with imageboards: users now focus on quality of information and its density and generally shame those that deviate from removing vanity from discourse.
                    Outside of this, I'm unsure how we would innovate it.

                    3) If you were going to invade a country, or, hell, even just cripple it because someone there called you ugly, your first steps would be asking wht the best approach is. Well, these days, warfare is quite a bit more refined than in the recent past. With the advent of social media, weakening an opponent is requisite to engaging them.
                    So, we should ask ourselves, "how might we weaken our opponent via social media?"
                    Well, I imagine you noticed these things are interlinked on purpose - we're all here, right now, discussing this because we dared to remain competent and disagreeable, among other masculine traits. In their endeavors to weaken us, their gambit was trading our being walled off for our opportunity to coordinate.
                    Unfortunately for them, we innovated faster than they could stifle us and are pushing back. You'll notice TRP, NoFap, MGTOW and all of their ilk were infiltrated. The Proud Boys get newbies that always try to get them to do blow, the Boogaloos were clearly comped from the beginning and Jordan Peterson is relentlessly mauled for good reason from CNN to 4chin. All of these things overlap and it's all on purpose.

                    It's rather fitting Paul had a mini statue of Atlas on his desk. As he conveyed, Atlas shrugging will sink Feminists, so they take themselves down. Men need to be competent and not subservient to deluded, lonely Feminists and recognizing their value again is the first step to do it.

                    Our species got this far on Traditional Values and respecting both genders equally. Feminism is for Gynocentrists and, as Paul more or less points out, isn't at all about promoting, freeing nor celebrating Feminism, but about feminizing men.

                    [–]jet199 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                    Actual child porn was deleted, but it contained a lot of beautiful pictures of young girls

                    If you add the word young (low in age) to the word girl (female child) what do think you get, because I don't think that's the meaning you're aiming for.

                    [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                    The girls identified as 666 years old so its okay

                    [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    I fail to see what your point is.

                    [–]socks 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                    Excellent post. I hope Saiditors will have a serious discussions about what will build the site. With only 5 or 10 users in a given sub at a time, and yet 38,815 readers, something's definitely wrong with Saidit.

                    As we know, part of the problem is that the posts and discussions are often right-wing propaganda posts and comments, as if Saidit were run by shills.

                    Saidit has an opportunity to offer better content than Reddit, and better discussions, but continues to be dominated by propaganda, and people who want to argue about facts.

                    When the site can address much more than just this limited view of the world, it will encourage more readers to and Saiditors to show up.

                    [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                    " When the site can address much more than just this limited view of the world, it will encourage more readers to and Saiditors to show up. "

                    I think this site offers more than just a limited view. It offers more views than most, and many are not limited. Find me a better place and I'll go. Find me a better way and I'll follow.

                    How could we better filter without censoring?

                    What do you propose?

                    [–]socks 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    It offers more views than most

                    I think this is the problem. Saidit is not a diverse site, and a few people tend to push only one kind of agenda, which turns others away. Those who disagree with a right-wing point of view - as I've seen - will get harrassed and called names. This is not necesssarily a problem for me, but it's not a good reason for a left-leaning or moderate person to remain on the site.

                    The options of 'insightful' or 'funny' are too limited, and most posts on the front page are never insightful or funny. Allow the posts to get to the front page that people click on, whether they vote or not. Consider an alternative to the 'funny' vote option that does not have the same consequences as a downvote (god forbid Saiditors face consequences for their actions). An alternative vote button for funny could be a turd blossom, for shitpost, but with no consequences for the post.

                    Encourage people to provide diverse posts and to debate.

                    [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                    You're one of the rare people who got my point right. The point isn't that there needs to be a jailbait sub and nothing else. The point is that banning reasonable content just creates a right-wing shill site. That makes people lose interest. I mentioned another example, of people not being allowed to celebrate mass murderers. Why? That makes no sense. It's legal to do that by US laws. So why would it not be allowed here?

                    I see men as Marc Lepine, George Sodini, Breivik or Elliot Rodger as heroes. Why am I not allowed to say that?

                    [–]socks 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                    I think you can say that last line on Saidit and Reddit. I don't know of anyone who would agree with you, but of course that's beside the point.

                    [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    https://saidit.net/s/Incels/comments/1brg/changes_in_this_sub/

                    "1.Re-adding posts removed by admins for legitimate reasons (posts advocating violence and praising mass murderers)"

                    I am not sure what Reddit admins would have done but it seems Saiddit admins remove praising mass murderers.

                    As to who might agree with me it's true that not a lot of people will worship all 4 of these guys but Lepine is loved by anti-feminists, Sodini and ER by incels, Breivik by anti-islamists/hard right wing. I just love everybody who kills modern Westerners regardless of who they are.

                    [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                      [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                      So-called "Minor Attracted Persons" would test the fence like velociraptors and CP would become inevitable as habit or corporate sabotage.

                      This is a minor issue if you have good moderation.

                      I'm sure there is a vast web for they who would bug on the young.

                      They don't "bug" on them, young girls want sex with older men a lot as well. Anyway, the point is merely about free speech, which Saidit doesn't have. Neither did Voat, so they will end up the same.

                      [–]wendolynne 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                      It's a big internet, it's impossible to be all things to all people. Saidit's promise of high quality debate is attractive. Too often the 'debate' degenerates into propaganda and insults. The challenge is to live up to the promise, not to degenerate further, to propaganda, insults and porn. Plenty of other sites have that market covered.

                      [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                      How does Saiddit ensure high quality debate? Several morons on this thread insulted me and strawmanned me. I don't call that "high quality debate".

                      [–]wendolynne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                      Aspirations. Saidit aspires to be a site for high quality debate. It often falls short, unfortunately. The insults and strawmanning are a bigger threat to Saidit than the lack of jailbait, in my opinion. To your point, how can Saidit do both: support free speech and maintain civility, so that interesting things can happen here, and so that people want to be here and participate? Can we have a high quality debate on that? The other aspiration, something vague about being a replacement for Reddit, IDK.

                      [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

                      so Saidit doesn't live up to your demands to be what it isn't, so it will die?

                      move along, loser.

                      [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

                      Oh, no, it won't die because I don't like it, it will die because it has stupid policies. Do you think I believe Voat died because of me lol?

                      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

                      This is a war of information and ideologies.

                      We are a target. No need to make the target bigger.

                      Focus on the top issues. Aim for the heads.

                      Don't buy into the partisan and divisive bullshit.

                      [–][deleted]  (6 children)

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                        [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

                        I'm anything but a Q-tard.

                        If you want to see the biggest legit conspiracy laid out clearly, for all the marbles: /s/Agenda21_Agenda2030/comments/77bi/catherine_austin_fitts_full_interview_planet/

                        [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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                          [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                          It's her best I've seen.

                          [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                            [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                            I agree to this agreed.

                            [–]Caamib[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                            The point is that you're actually not a big target if you limit your site to right wing politics and memes. You will become irrelevant and die just like Voat did.

                            [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                            Nonsense. Conservatism, nor progressivism or voluntarism (anarchism) for that matter, won't die just because they're censored from corporate "mainstream" media which is going totalitarian communist.

                            [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                            It doesn't even have to "die". It will just become irrelevant, just like Voat did. It took Voat a long, long time to die and maybe it could have survived for a bit longer but it became irrelevant due to bad policies. I see this site going down the same road.

                            Btw, what is conservatism today? What exactly do you want to conserve? There is nothing to conserve anymore because the entire culture went to shit and shit isn't worth conserving. Only being a reactionary makes sense today.

                            [–]TheAmeliaMay 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                            It's just an angry pedophile; ignore, block, and move on.

                            [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                            You're wrong, but I agree that it's best for people like you to just block me and move on. Your IQ is hopelessly low and we'll never be able to have a discussion. That you're an admin here is even more depressing.

                            [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                              [–]hennaojichan 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                              Yeah, right after you die.

                              [–]Caamib[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                              "High quality discussion"