Please ban /s/Fascism

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[–]magnora7 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (35 children)

They're removing people who are having discussions in good faith, so I just took them off of /all as per site rules regarding moderators https://www.saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/w6s/saidit_rules_for_moderators/

[–]Markimus 9 insightful - 7 fun9 insightful - 6 fun10 insightful - 7 fun -  (21 children)

The 2 users in question /u/16Mega and /u/fschmidt, let's look at where their comments fit on your pyramid, eh?

Firstly we will take 16mega, he has a comment in ironleft where he's using a jewish slur for non-jews 'goy/goyim' which basically means non jews are dirty, cattle etc. Notice how fschmidt also uses this board, they were coordinating a brigade of trolling as a pair of jews defending jewish power, capitalism and liberalism. (EDIT ALSO IN THIS THREAD IS /U/LOKI88. ANOTHER MEMBER OF THIS PARTICULAR JEWISH CELL THAT COORDINATES TO CENSOR ONLINE SPACES.)

Now let's look at what his comments were in our sub that you claim are 'good faith':

1) This comment is fine, he's just twisting facts in a weird nonsensical way to fit his narrative, I reply clearing away the nonsense from his comment to give the full context of what he's talking about and he responds with this

2) Very obviously just trolling, the comment says nothing he's just posting substanceless snark and insults. Where does this fall on your pyramid, explain how this is good faith discussion. I'm really interested to hear this.

Now let's move on to the second brigading jew, fschmidt. FYI this guy used to do this on reddit too, he's an activist jew who dedicates his entire life to defending capitalism, liberalism and jewish power from anyone who dares critique any of them and he's been doing it for years. Let's take a look at his 'good faith' comments shall we?

1) 'Hitler lost because he's racist' is this a serious comment? Logistics, economy, technology, geography, weather, morale, training, strategy, tactics and every other factor that goes into determining war efforts should just be ignored yes? He's participating in total good faith. Someone should tell Carl von Clausewitz and Napoleon about this, you win war by being anti-racist everything else doesn't matter. The only reason Hitler lost is because he was racist!!!!!! Go on, explain to me how this is in good faith, I'd love to hear what bullshit you can come up with.

2) He again asserts this nonsensical claim that Hitler lost because 'he was racist' only. Clearly trolling, after replying again pointing out how this is nonsense he just insults me

3) Go on /u/magnora7 you lying twerp explain how this is good faith discussion. Show me where on the pyramid this comment touches you.

Conclusion: we got brigaded by two jews who were literally just blatantly trolling. They got banned because their comments weren't even close to having any substance whatsoever and then you took their side and lied about how they are actually good users and I'm just some meanie who likes censoring people for no reason.

FYI there's 2 users (AcceleratedWallops and noseburp) in that thread who were borderline trolling/being retarded who didn't get banned, how do you explain that if I'm just censorious? It's very clear you are are either full of shit or didn't bother to actually look into this. Now with this comment you have the necessary information and no excuse and are faced with two choices: admit you are just a fraud with no principles or admit your mistake and oversight to these organised jews launching an attack on your own site and userbase.

Edit: By the way, I'd actually prefer to be off /r/all as I mentioned earlier because your userbase is fully retarded. However, I don't appreciate you blatantly lying and acting dishonourably. Nor do I appreciate you capitulating to jewish terrorists launching attacks on your own website, you are a coward for this. How can anyone have any confidence in your website when the second you see a jew you shit your pants and do whatever they say like Jason Spencer did with Sacha Baron Cohen when he thought he was an Israeli? If you lack the backbone to say no to any request of literally any jew there's no way your site will survive because eventually one will ask you to close your servers and you'll just say yes.

[–]fschmidt[S] 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Man, you have a thin grip on reality. But I will respond anyway.

I doubt 16mega and I agree on much. I just saw his post about /s/Fascism, and since it was relevant to what I just experienced, I commented on it. I don't expect to be an active member of his sub.

he's an activist jew who dedicates his entire life to defending capitalism, liberalism and jewish power from anyone who dares critique any of them and he's been doing it for years.

That's hilarious. Here is my reddit profile. I have been attacking liberalism and jewish power for years.

Then you move into debate, a debate you weren't willing to have in your sub. But I can debate you anywhere.

you win war by being anti-racist everything else doesn't matter.

I didn't say this. In war, everything matters. Get one critical thing wrong and you lose. And the critical thing that Hitler got wrong was racism.

He again asserts this nonsensical claim

No, I answered your question and explained why. Any reasonable person can read through the thread and see what really happened.

[–]Markimus 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

There is no debate. 'Racism' clearly isn't a factor in warfare, you are just trolling and you've been doing it for years while trying to get every place banned that doesn't bend the knee to jew power. And no, you don't attack jewish power. You do anti-religious judaism bullshit, religious jews are literally irrelevant in the context of the jewish question.

[–]fschmidt[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Racism is a factor if it causes you to fail to take advantage of talent that could support the war effort. And that is exactly what happened here. As I explained, and you failed to understand, the Hungarian racial jews who developed the atomic bomb could have developed it for the German side if Hitler hadn't been racist.

I very rarely call for any place to be banned. But you failed to explain your moderation policies in your sidebar and this is misleading based on the nature of SaidIt. You should fix this.

Jewish power is entirely based on the teaching of the Talmud. Presumably you don't understand this because you know nothing about Judaism.

[–]Markimus 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I very rarely call for any place to be banned. But you failed to explain your moderation policies in your sidebar and this is misleading based on the nature of SaidIt. You should fix this.

Trolling and brigading are universally against the rules of literally every board on every forum ever dummy. You've been around for years doing these things so you should know this by now.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (14 children)

I had no idea this was coordinated at all, good call honestly.

It's so hard to keep track of who's legitimate user, and who's brigading troll.

/u/magnora7 should definitely get this into context. We did have similar users on Reddit too, and they would never stop, so ban + mute worked the best.

And again, this very post doesn't imply comments on our board were in good faith at all, because he seeks outright ban. Totally normal behavior guys, this guy totally doesn't have any ulterior motives :)))

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    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

    Where's the irony? Initially I was dubious of this decision, but now after learning these facts it's completely justified.

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      [–]Markimus 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

      We got summoned to the thread retard.

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        [–]Markimus 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

        Never said you weren't?

        So how is 2 people replying to a comment thread THAT WE GOT SUMMONED TO LMAO 'more reason to believe' that we are engaging in some coordinated effort to brigade this thread than you and your buddy showing up out of the blue brigading our board?

        BTW, nice moving the discussion up the pyramid there. Again: the irony. 😔

        Yes, everyone should continue acting like normal people whilst you continually act as a grotesque subhuman. If you acted like you do online in real life you'd get beaten up daily by anyone you came into contact with, shut the fuck up.

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          [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

          You are playing obtuse. Stop with the damn emojis.

          [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Sneed.

          [–]Airbus320 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Emoji spam too childish btw, hard to take you seriously

          [–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Did reddit ban leftism too?

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            [–]Markimus 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

            Snark and WORDS WORDS WORDS doesn't impress anyone, Mr. Shapiro.

            [–]cqtz 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

            Do moderators usually get notified (Edit: other than through the mod log) when their subs get taken off of /s/all?

            If they don't: Hey /u/Markimus, /u/disidentHR, and /u/rightm, I just wanted to let you know that /s/Fascism has been taken off of /s/all. See this post.

            [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

            Hey, thanks for pinging us!

            /u/magnora7 I think the decision is fair, we wouldn't want our community to devolve into "Hitler was a racist", "Fascism is pure evil" and billion other talking points we've all heard from Hollywood movies, celebrities, late night comedians, etc.

            I don't even agree with "wiping out" rabbis or jews, as OP has stated in his comment, and now THIS GUY has the audacity to call to ban OUR community.

            We will write rules some day in future, but as you can see, we didn't have much time to get around tidying the place up.

            [–]Markimus 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

            nah, thank god though. being visible to the cretins that infest this site is a curse i wouldnt wish on anyone. much rather be able to quality control to select away trolls and schizophrenics

            [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            🙏

            [–]Markimus 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

            yea bro literally flinging insults and mindless talking points backed up with ZERO substance is totally 'good faith'. you are as low iq as the average user here, thanks for quality controlling your retarded userbase for me though. good riddance to these animals you've managed to tardwrangle.

            [–]RM-Goetbbels 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

            Dammit, I use /all and I kind of like that saidit. That and ironleft are the spice on chicken tendies.

            [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            Well you can browse https://saidit.net/s/all+fascism if you really want it in the mix

            [–]RM-Goetbbels 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            That just seems silly. As in I have to add an extra step to see something benign instead of blocking something I don't want to see but whatever.

            While looking for my own answer, thinking that if I subscribed to fascism, I could bypass your elimination of it from /all I found a crapload of saidits not listed by all. AND THEY WERE THE GOOD ONES, lol. You're hiding "the good saidits".

            It's your site, you do what you want but currently it just seems counterintuitive to what your site claims. Sort of like classifying a post as spam when it's just an opinion that disagrees with your own.

            That's the thing about people, if you watch, and wait long enough, they'll show you their true colors.

            Edit: oh, but thanks for the answer and the option though. I appreciate it.

            [–]Markimus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

            Hey update on this old friend.

            https://saidit.net/user/JasonCarsweIl one of these people fschmidt, loki88, mega16 and diogenesjunior who knows which but it looks like they continued doing their tricks elsewhere on your site and got themselves banned and now they're impersonating JasonCarswell and continuing to attack your site.

            Please in the future for the sake of every user on this site use a bit more due diligence to assess these kinds of situations. It's very clear they were trolling from the start and I laid it all out for you. You should trust me in the future mate, I have a lot of experience dealing with jewish forum trolls after running dissident subreddits with tens of thousands of monthly uniques.

            [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            Hey, long time no see. I've been suspicious for a long time, but I didn't want to alienate users and over-moderate in a place that's designed around escaping the censorship of reddit. It's a tough line to walk, but another forum would have different rules.

            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            now they're impersonating JasonCarswell

            But he has a different name. Don't true impersonators use identically looking symbols with different code?

            [–]Markimus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Well it's clear they're not trying to pass as that guy to smear him or something, they just chose his name because he's a big user on this site and maybe he annoyed one of them or something who knows.