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[–]adultmanhwa 17 insightful - 7 fun17 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

nein go to reddit if you want more ban

[–]magnora7 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (35 children)

They're removing people who are having discussions in good faith, so I just took them off of /all as per site rules regarding moderators https://www.saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/w6s/saidit_rules_for_moderators/

[–]Markimus 9 insightful - 7 fun9 insightful - 6 fun10 insightful - 7 fun -  (21 children)

The 2 users in question /u/16Mega and /u/fschmidt, let's look at where their comments fit on your pyramid, eh?

Firstly we will take 16mega, he has a comment in ironleft where he's using a jewish slur for non-jews 'goy/goyim' which basically means non jews are dirty, cattle etc. Notice how fschmidt also uses this board, they were coordinating a brigade of trolling as a pair of jews defending jewish power, capitalism and liberalism. (EDIT ALSO IN THIS THREAD IS /U/LOKI88. ANOTHER MEMBER OF THIS PARTICULAR JEWISH CELL THAT COORDINATES TO CENSOR ONLINE SPACES.)

Now let's look at what his comments were in our sub that you claim are 'good faith':

1) This comment is fine, he's just twisting facts in a weird nonsensical way to fit his narrative, I reply clearing away the nonsense from his comment to give the full context of what he's talking about and he responds with this

2) Very obviously just trolling, the comment says nothing he's just posting substanceless snark and insults. Where does this fall on your pyramid, explain how this is good faith discussion. I'm really interested to hear this.

Now let's move on to the second brigading jew, fschmidt. FYI this guy used to do this on reddit too, he's an activist jew who dedicates his entire life to defending capitalism, liberalism and jewish power from anyone who dares critique any of them and he's been doing it for years. Let's take a look at his 'good faith' comments shall we?

1) 'Hitler lost because he's racist' is this a serious comment? Logistics, economy, technology, geography, weather, morale, training, strategy, tactics and every other factor that goes into determining war efforts should just be ignored yes? He's participating in total good faith. Someone should tell Carl von Clausewitz and Napoleon about this, you win war by being anti-racist everything else doesn't matter. The only reason Hitler lost is because he was racist!!!!!! Go on, explain to me how this is in good faith, I'd love to hear what bullshit you can come up with.

2) He again asserts this nonsensical claim that Hitler lost because 'he was racist' only. Clearly trolling, after replying again pointing out how this is nonsense he just insults me

3) Go on /u/magnora7 you lying twerp explain how this is good faith discussion. Show me where on the pyramid this comment touches you.

Conclusion: we got brigaded by two jews who were literally just blatantly trolling. They got banned because their comments weren't even close to having any substance whatsoever and then you took their side and lied about how they are actually good users and I'm just some meanie who likes censoring people for no reason.

FYI there's 2 users (AcceleratedWallops and noseburp) in that thread who were borderline trolling/being retarded who didn't get banned, how do you explain that if I'm just censorious? It's very clear you are are either full of shit or didn't bother to actually look into this. Now with this comment you have the necessary information and no excuse and are faced with two choices: admit you are just a fraud with no principles or admit your mistake and oversight to these organised jews launching an attack on your own site and userbase.

Edit: By the way, I'd actually prefer to be off /r/all as I mentioned earlier because your userbase is fully retarded. However, I don't appreciate you blatantly lying and acting dishonourably. Nor do I appreciate you capitulating to jewish terrorists launching attacks on your own website, you are a coward for this. How can anyone have any confidence in your website when the second you see a jew you shit your pants and do whatever they say like Jason Spencer did with Sacha Baron Cohen when he thought he was an Israeli? If you lack the backbone to say no to any request of literally any jew there's no way your site will survive because eventually one will ask you to close your servers and you'll just say yes.

[–]fschmidt[S] 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Man, you have a thin grip on reality. But I will respond anyway.

I doubt 16mega and I agree on much. I just saw his post about /s/Fascism, and since it was relevant to what I just experienced, I commented on it. I don't expect to be an active member of his sub.

he's an activist jew who dedicates his entire life to defending capitalism, liberalism and jewish power from anyone who dares critique any of them and he's been doing it for years.

That's hilarious. Here is my reddit profile. I have been attacking liberalism and jewish power for years.

Then you move into debate, a debate you weren't willing to have in your sub. But I can debate you anywhere.

you win war by being anti-racist everything else doesn't matter.

I didn't say this. In war, everything matters. Get one critical thing wrong and you lose. And the critical thing that Hitler got wrong was racism.

He again asserts this nonsensical claim

No, I answered your question and explained why. Any reasonable person can read through the thread and see what really happened.

[–]Markimus 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

There is no debate. 'Racism' clearly isn't a factor in warfare, you are just trolling and you've been doing it for years while trying to get every place banned that doesn't bend the knee to jew power. And no, you don't attack jewish power. You do anti-religious judaism bullshit, religious jews are literally irrelevant in the context of the jewish question.

[–]fschmidt[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Racism is a factor if it causes you to fail to take advantage of talent that could support the war effort. And that is exactly what happened here. As I explained, and you failed to understand, the Hungarian racial jews who developed the atomic bomb could have developed it for the German side if Hitler hadn't been racist.

I very rarely call for any place to be banned. But you failed to explain your moderation policies in your sidebar and this is misleading based on the nature of SaidIt. You should fix this.

Jewish power is entirely based on the teaching of the Talmud. Presumably you don't understand this because you know nothing about Judaism.

[–]Markimus 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I very rarely call for any place to be banned. But you failed to explain your moderation policies in your sidebar and this is misleading based on the nature of SaidIt. You should fix this.

Trolling and brigading are universally against the rules of literally every board on every forum ever dummy. You've been around for years doing these things so you should know this by now.

[–]disidentHR 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (14 children)

I had no idea this was coordinated at all, good call honestly.

It's so hard to keep track of who's legitimate user, and who's brigading troll.

/u/magnora7 should definitely get this into context. We did have similar users on Reddit too, and they would never stop, so ban + mute worked the best.

And again, this very post doesn't imply comments on our board were in good faith at all, because he seeks outright ban. Totally normal behavior guys, this guy totally doesn't have any ulterior motives :)))

[–]16Mega 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

I had no idea this was coordinated at all, good call honestly.

...says /u/Markimus' co-moderator on /s/fascism.

The irony.

[–]disidentHR 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Where's the irony? Initially I was dubious of this decision, but now after learning these facts it's completely justified.

[–]16Mega 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

The irony is that we actually have even more reason to believe that you and /u/Markimus are right here and now engaging in exactly the behavior he "accuses" /u/fschmidt and me of (which, putting the conspiracy rhetoric aside, is basically... being buddies?)

I guess playing obtuse is just part of the act. 😌

[–]Markimus 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

[–]16Mega 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Never said you weren't?

BTW, nice moving the discussion up the pyramid there. Again: the irony. 😔

[–]Markimus 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Never said you weren't?

So how is 2 people replying to a comment thread THAT WE GOT SUMMONED TO LMAO 'more reason to believe' that we are engaging in some coordinated effort to brigade this thread than you and your buddy showing up out of the blue brigading our board?

BTW, nice moving the discussion up the pyramid there. Again: the irony. 😔

Yes, everyone should continue acting like normal people whilst you continually act as a grotesque subhuman. If you acted like you do online in real life you'd get beaten up daily by anyone you came into contact with, shut the fuck up.

[–]16Mega 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So how is 2 people replying to a comment thread 'more reason to believe' that we are engaging in some coordinated effort to brigade this thread than you and your buddy showing up out of the blue brigading our board?

By the exact same metric you used to "deduce" two people replying to a comment thread be reason to believe they (i.e., /u/fschmidt and me) were "engaging in some coordinated effort to brigade that thread," Sherlock: by claiming an inner-circle connection.

Except in the case of /u/disidentHR and you -- and much unlike the case of /u/fschmidt and myself -- that connection is proven & documented beyond any doubt. I.e., he's your frickin' moderator! 😌

If you acted like you do online in real life you'd get beaten up daily by anyone you came into contact with

Now, if that ain't breaking through the pyramid's roof, what is? 😌

[–]Earendil 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You are playing obtuse. Stop with the damn emojis.

[–]disidentHR 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sneed.

[–]Airbus320 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Emoji spam too childish btw, hard to take you seriously

[–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Did reddit ban leftism too?

[–]16Mega 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

🤣🤣🤣

Welp, /u/fschmidt, looks like you've just got officially promoted to the inner circle of 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝙸𝚛𝚘𝚗 𝙻𝙴𝙵𝚃 by grace of the deer Führer /u/Markimus ^(himself a user of our sub) ! Who would've guessed you'd rise all up the ranks in just one day?
(BTW, have you subscribed yet? 😆)

At this point, I'm genuinely not sure if /u/Markimus is serious or just satire. You couldn't make a more flagrant caricature of the far-right's knee-jerk impromptu conspiracy mongering (and "kike"-calling, to use his own word of choice when he's not playing the victim card) than that.

Hm... I wonder if /u/Markimus has got his 23andMe results yet...

[–]Markimus 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Snark and WORDS WORDS WORDS doesn't impress anyone, Mr. Shapiro.

[–]cqtz 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Do moderators usually get notified (Edit: other than through the mod log) when their subs get taken off of /s/all?

If they don't: Hey /u/Markimus, /u/disidentHR, and /u/rightm, I just wanted to let you know that /s/Fascism has been taken off of /s/all. See this post.

[–]disidentHR 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Hey, thanks for pinging us!

/u/magnora7 I think the decision is fair, we wouldn't want our community to devolve into "Hitler was a racist", "Fascism is pure evil" and billion other talking points we've all heard from Hollywood movies, celebrities, late night comedians, etc.

I don't even agree with "wiping out" rabbis or jews, as OP has stated in his comment, and now THIS GUY has the audacity to call to ban OUR community.

We will write rules some day in future, but as you can see, we didn't have much time to get around tidying the place up.

[–]Markimus 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

nah, thank god though. being visible to the cretins that infest this site is a curse i wouldnt wish on anyone. much rather be able to quality control to select away trolls and schizophrenics

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

🙏

[–]Markimus 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

yea bro literally flinging insults and mindless talking points backed up with ZERO substance is totally 'good faith'. you are as low iq as the average user here, thanks for quality controlling your retarded userbase for me though. good riddance to these animals you've managed to tardwrangle.

[–]RM-Goetbbels 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Dammit, I use /all and I kind of like that saidit. That and ironleft are the spice on chicken tendies.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Well you can browse https://saidit.net/s/all+fascism if you really want it in the mix

[–]RM-Goetbbels 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That just seems silly. As in I have to add an extra step to see something benign instead of blocking something I don't want to see but whatever.

While looking for my own answer, thinking that if I subscribed to fascism, I could bypass your elimination of it from /all I found a crapload of saidits not listed by all. AND THEY WERE THE GOOD ONES, lol. You're hiding "the good saidits".

It's your site, you do what you want but currently it just seems counterintuitive to what your site claims. Sort of like classifying a post as spam when it's just an opinion that disagrees with your own.

That's the thing about people, if you watch, and wait long enough, they'll show you their true colors.

Edit: oh, but thanks for the answer and the option though. I appreciate it.

[–]Markimus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Hey update on this old friend.

https://saidit.net/user/JasonCarsweIl one of these people fschmidt, loki88, mega16 and diogenesjunior who knows which but it looks like they continued doing their tricks elsewhere on your site and got themselves banned and now they're impersonating JasonCarswell and continuing to attack your site.

Please in the future for the sake of every user on this site use a bit more due diligence to assess these kinds of situations. It's very clear they were trolling from the start and I laid it all out for you. You should trust me in the future mate, I have a lot of experience dealing with jewish forum trolls after running dissident subreddits with tens of thousands of monthly uniques.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Hey, long time no see. I've been suspicious for a long time, but I didn't want to alienate users and over-moderate in a place that's designed around escaping the censorship of reddit. It's a tough line to walk, but another forum would have different rules.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

now they're impersonating JasonCarswell

But he has a different name. Don't true impersonators use identically looking symbols with different code?

[–]Markimus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well it's clear they're not trying to pass as that guy to smear him or something, they just chose his name because he's a big user on this site and maybe he annoyed one of them or something who knows.

[–]loki88 9 insightful - 10 fun9 insightful - 9 fun10 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

/s/fascism behaving like fascists.

Who would've guessed?

[–]HillaryClinCuck 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Bro, we're here to avoid censorship.

[–]TheOtherSide 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No U.

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    [–]RM-Goetbbels 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

    Already happened.

    re: You've been banned from participating in /s/centrism from TheAmeliaMay[A] via /s/centrism sent 1 day ago s/centrism is for discussion about centrism, not for spam.

    Here's "the spam" they're talking about. You'll notice that TheAmeliaMay deleted it's comment.

    Don't misunderstand, I'm not crying about it like a little bitch, I could give a fuck less whether I'm "banned" from whatever saidit, but when I'm having an honest conversation, taking the time to explain the misconceptions or errors the poster is making, it's not "spam". But that's what I got banned for.

    So yeah, if you're the site admin and someone comes along and makes you look stupid, you can just ban them from the saidit for whatever reason.

    [–]Earendil 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

    Amelia is easy to trigger.

    [–]RM-Goetbbels 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    I won't lie, it was fun.

    [–]Earendil 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    I never meant to do it in the first place, but after the first time of accidentally doing it, I realized that user is off their rocker. I don't mind poking at people.

    [–]TheBeefBenson 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Yeah... your post looks like low effort spam to me, buddy.

    [–]RM-Goetbbels 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Spam Definition & Meaning- Spam is unsolicited Internet content that is typically sent in bulk for advertising purposes from an unknown sender. Spam is sometimes defined more broadly as any unsolicited email.

    Just because you disagree or don't understand something does not make it spam moron.

    [–]TheBeefBenson 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    It was a needless and unhelpful rant, not a well thought out point or question. That would fall under the broad term of spam.

    [–]RM-Goetbbels 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I guess if I felt that fuel taxes levied on the American people were fair then when someone told me that there was a better way that I'd feel it was spam too. lol.

    [–]TheBeefBenson 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I have absolutely no thoughts or cares on the matter you were talking about. But it was clear to see your post contributed nothing. It was literally just an accusation against some group with no follow up argument or proper explanation. It was just a sweeping generalisation that seemed like you were just trying to be combative and troll people rather than being open to discussion.

    I'd have removed that type of post from any sub regardless of whether I agreed with it or not.

    No matter the subject it's just such a poor

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      [–]RM-Goetbbels 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      That's your misconception, not mine. And to be fair to me I'm not sure how you can judge from only one side of the conversation because the other side deleted its post.

      In fact, I don't see how you could even suggest that just by what I posted.

      [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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        [–]RM-Goetbbels 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        To be fair, the jews did do it.

        [–]Markimus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

        Explain what needs to be done. What rule did we break? Opposing liberalism, capitalism and jewish power isn't allowed here? Banning brigading trolls that obviously aren't participating in good faith is punishable? So we're supposed to just allow organised jewish terrorists to destroy our spaces? What a joke.

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          [–]Markimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

          So you think saying the sole reason Germany lost the second world war is because 'hitler was a big meanie racist' isn't trolling?

          So if I say to you that the only reason Hillary Clinton wasn't president is because she doesn't take baths on tuesdays you will accept that I'm not trolling you? Ok bro

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            [–]Markimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

            So you were just randomly saying we should be punished without even bothering to look at the trolling he was doing? Good job retard

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              [–]Markimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

              I think that some action needs to be taken, but not banning. How different would it be if a prolific user called for a sub to be banned, and the admins fulfilled the request?

              You literally did say we should be punished, so are you claiming you did actually look into what he was saying? And you think that him making the claim Germany lost a war because Hitler was a racist meanie is not trolling? Why not just admit you didn't bother to look at the comments instead of doing this nonsensical squirming? It's just stupid.

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                [–]Markimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                Do you know the meaning of the word punishment? Removal from /r/all is a punishment for the crime of banning trolls.

                You are doing ridiculous mental gymnastics because of your own insecurity, kinda cringe bro

                [–]jet199 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

                Frankly I'm impressed s/fascism is actually trying to enact the full scope of a fascist state in their little sub and aren't just a bunch of edgy teens whining about their parents telling them to clean their rooms.

                How long before the mod gets strung up with piano wire?

                [–]JesusSaves 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                did you say something anti-semitic or pro-semeitic ?

                [–]fschmidt[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                You can follow the link. I said something anti-judaism but I don't care about race. Jews (followers of Judaism) always call me an anti-semite which is odd since I am racially jewish.

                [–]Horrux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                Oh wow that looks like a sub I could join and have great discussions at. Thank you for bringing this up.