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[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

But SaidIt has a weak admin. And Ruqqus prevents users who don't worship Trump and Hitler from making new guilds. It won't silence you like Voat, but without a guild, your ability to use that site is greatly restricted.

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    [–]Pis-dur 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Look at the spam in e.g. s/technology. There are bots, I'm reporting their spam and guess what - they still exist.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    Care to go further on this?

    They've removed that IP2 thing, whatever it was.
    We are being forced by our server company to remove a big sub from saidit

    I do neither, yet I am a guild master of like eight.

    Ways may exist, but they aren't obvious. Ruqqus has little potential for growth. Unless it becomes a monopoly.

    you can use +general and other subs just fine

    Can't organize posts, the possibility of conflict.

    [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

    I'm probably the last member of IP2 still lingering around on SaidIt lol. That was weak, but I understood it. You had to be apart of IP2 to understand; yes, we were an island sub and we had a deal with Magnora that we were complying with (and we were even donating money to, and helping SaidIt), but it couldn't last forever with how things were going that were both beyond our and Magnora's control.

    IP2 made many enemies. We were like lolcow or KiwiFarms for streamers who did retarded shit on stream. And those streamers who saw "Streaming" as their job and considered themselves celebrities (due to their huge egos), didn't like the fact that we clipped their retardedness and would laugh at it (it wasn't our fault they chose to behave that way, leave tabs, porn and PM's open, show their dicks to everyone and the stream, do drugs, or talk about their degeneracy on camera). But they hated us because the internet doesn't forget. Those clippers were "impeding them from evolving their career and we were making them look bad and attacking their income".

    So they started attacking SaidIt because we were existing on SaidIt at the time as they just got us b& from Reddit for the same reasons lol; I don't know if you remember, but they started spamming /s/all with CP and shit like Skat Porn. This started on our sub first and then spread out to the rest of SaidIt. They tried to make it look like it was us, IP2, that was doing it, but Magnora and d3rr knew us at that point. It was Paul Denino and Scuffed Jim Carrey who were literally spamming CP all over SaidIt, as well as PMing random members with imgur links to CP.

    That's how degenerate they were; they would look at and collect CP to send it to other people and thought that was "trolling". They had a whole discord we'd collect ss's from (which pissed them off too) where they shared CP (for operational purposes, nothing weird or degenerate or anything, and yes, many of us reported it to the FBI ), and they got mad we caught them too. That's when SJC and IP started attacking SaidIt hard, through the host and posting CP and PMing members (even users who weren't apart of IP2), CP.

    That's why IP2 wasn't salty towards Magnora, we all understood. We appreciated him allowing us to stay for as long as he did and putting up with all he did from streamers who literally have toes rotting off from poor hygiene and diabetes and piss and shit themselves every night on camera after getting black-out drunk. Or physically attack their mothers on live stream while wearing and flexing their Gucci headband and flip-flops.

    tl;dr: We caught Ice Poseidon/Paul Denino, the ring-leader of this group of streamers, trying to fuck an underage girl and have threesome with her. He accidently leaked his PM's to her on stream. He met up with her in person on stream. We have recording, screenshots, everything. He even had her put an IP grabber on her site when Chris Hanson started investigating this and when Chris Hansen was going to do a stream on him, DDoS'd him so he couldn't do a stream about him. And that's just the tip of the iceberg - they're all disgusting degenerates.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZe0eIQnNo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQMmkRgCn7M

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWTL6npM6yI

    IP had an initiation ritual for his group of streamers where they all had to show each other their dicks and jerk off together in a circle, and if you had foreskin, you had to let him "dock" (put his dick into your foreskin) you. They were serious degenerates. Sam Pepper had molested and raped multiple under-aged girls, along with many of the other streamers. This is literally all the tip of the ice berg. And this shit was supposed to be a secret. We had clips, screenshots and audio that proved it was real, forcing IP to do certain interviews and talk about it, and he blames us for ruining his career when he did it all lol.

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    It was Paul Denino and Scuffed Jim Carrey

    If SaidIt was easily defeated by 2 people, what do you think will happen when MSM and banks attack it? Like a pig on a farm, it only grows to die.

    [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    No arguments from me on that, other than the entity doesn't need to be as large as the MSM or banks.

    [–][deleted]  (6 children)

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      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      A sub that violated ToS

      They've tried complying, and the admin claims to not want removing them. Ruqqus goes a bit too far with its paranoia, but bad actors do exist.

      and brought down the PoD

      You can't read minds. And debates are useless. Truth is born from data and ways to connect it.

      You just need 250 rep

      "Just". Professional trolls and large political guilds would have no problem with this, true. Unlike communities that are new or have no reason for mass migration.

      What?

      Don't. As a guildmaster of 8 guilds, you should know why people need them.

      While Trump has some good qualities, Hitler is just a looser. There is no room for compromise.

      Yes, if I were to make my profile private and watch my words, it would be possible to collect that rep. But why should I go that far?

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        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        You want to ban all non-Jedi? I like your dedication, but you may end up with 0 users. It's impossible to know whether someone wants to break the PoD, or is simply bad with words.

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          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          It's impossible to control the outcomes of your deeds. It's impossible to know how your actions will affect the future and other people.

          Unless the movement of your mind is perfectly synchronized with the movement of the world. Unless you literally become a Jedi.

          To comply with your demands, everyone would have to either become a Jedi, or get banned.

           

          Free speech is a Nazi dog whistle. Whenever someone dares to say it, all the dogs start barking.

          I wonder whether all members of this community had been doxxing and harassing people, or only a few fellow members.

          [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          I wonder whether all members of this community had been doxxing and harassing people, or only a few fellow members.

          I doubt my word will be taken seriously due to bias, but we aren’t/weren’t a community of doxxers. I’m sure magnora and d3rr know this; things only got bad towards the beginning/end of this/last year when our sub started to get invaded by people who weren’t apart of our community, wanted us gone and off SaidIt, and when attacking our sub wasn’t working, they moved on to attacking SaidIt directly. Some of these people were being paid by IP and SJC.

          Like I said before, IP2 is very similar to lolcow and kiwi farms - we watch but don’t touch the shit. There are idiots in every group, however. If someone made a post where they donated real money just to make TTS (text to speech) say something fucked up or insult a streamer, they were called an idiot for being an idiot and wasting money lol.

          Edit: also, whenever we ventured outward of our “island sub” (which was a rare thing for an IP2 member to do), we always followed the PoD and had respect for SaidIt, it’s users and the discussions they were having. We never fucked with anyone.

          If you saw my posts and comments on IP2 that have been deleted, yeah, we fucked around with each other and had our own “culture”. But it was all jokes among each other, no hard feelings and we understood that. It was kept on the IP2 sub. Outside of the IP2 sub, I’ve never personally broken the PoD.

          And if you check out the thread where Magnora announced the end of IP2, you’ll see real IP2 users both thanking Mangora and d3rr, having and showing respect for SaidIt, and the conversations going on within the thread. We were already done at that point; if we were such “bad people”, we had no motive to “keep up the act” after our sub was shut down, but that thread is nothing but users thanking and paying respects to Magnora for holding out as long as he did.

          [–]ChillyChili 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          I got kicked out of 2 Ruqqus guilds already as a newish user for a single comments that were not spam nor directly abusive to others.

          Saidit seems preferable. The inability to downvote has really grown on me more.

          Downvoting as censorship/suppression is even more obvious when visiting sites that use it and discourages participation whatsoever if you end up experiencing it.

          [–][deleted] 0 insightful - 3 fun0 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

          They accused me of being mossad after one discussion where I wasn't even siding with Jews.

          Could be still using my comments for their counter-intelligence training.

          [–]ChillyChili 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          I got kicked out of 2 Ruqqus guilds already as a newish user for a single comments that were not spam nor directly abusive to others.

          Saidit seems preferable. The inability to downvote has really grown on me more.

          Downvoting as censorship/suppression is even more obvious when visiting sites that use it and discourages participation whatsoever if you end up experiencing it.

          [–]bluefish009 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

          hide from reddit and lemmy. hope this place good. thanks.

          [–]j77 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

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