Pyramid of Debate vs Echo Chamber subs

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    [–]SaidOverRed[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    First of all, I find the stalking creepy. Drop the ad-hominems. It's a bad look.

    Second of all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_you%27re_a_dog . I post in different manners depending on where I am at. My only real consistency are things such as: honesty, intelligence, empathy, counterfactualism, morality, etc, etc. Woof.

    Thirdly: your dishonest attempts to summarize my words are nails on a chalk board. Not only have I done no such thing, it's actually pretty actually very ironic, if you had more information (which you have proven yourself very unworthy of).

    Fourthly: I'm a bit surprised you had the gall to give an (out of context quote). Allow me to educate you: there is something in language called 'mood.' It allows story telling from positions other than the speaker. The point of the story was that gay men often have other ... how do I put this politely ... affinities which are still illegal but are being pushed by Netflix, the NYT, etc. And in that story it explains how pressures from very advocacy groups has resulted in exactly the kind of male takeover of lesbian spaces that you abhor. This story was highly relevant to the point of view being mocked in the thread, and thus the issue at hand. I admit that I personally do find the position worthy of mockery. But it's connection with other ideas was highly relevant. If you actually think I, as an individual, have an ultra-feminist teacher, you're mistaken. I would not tolerate such behavior personally. However, many males (and females) today do not have that luxury or do not have the strength of character to clear those things from their lives, thus story does include those elements. Do you not follow, or is it too pedantic? No one likes an explained joke, just like no one likes and explained meme, or a story that could be described in a few sentences via linguistic mood rather than fifteen paragraphs without it. You say "we fucking get it," but you don't. Debates are about attack, which does not interest me. It's about open, simply communication ... commenting, if you will.

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      If you'd like stick to your guns when you say "I really don't give a shit about the context of your remark either" then you've lost the argument and are not conversing in bad faith. I don't read material presented in bad faith, especially when presented either poorly or in hostility, so I won't bother with the rest of that. I live by Hanlon's razor, even if I'm not given the same benefit of the doubt.

      I'll let you try again, if you'd like to reverse that position on where a person's coming from, but to be honest any keyboard vomit other than that and I'm just going to block you. If you wanted to show that you can get me to 'ease up' on 'let's not be reddit' idea, you can take that as a win, if it makes you feel better. I don't normally block people on message boards, in fact I don't have a single person blocked on reddit and I subbed to pretty much every non-porn quarantined sub I could find. Maybe all the awful people I've found over there still kind of ... care? I'm not sure what that says about you, but you deserve to know. I consider that action a last resort, but it's awfully hard to have a discussion with someone who basically doesn't believe in the pyramid of debate and then combines that with other red-level name-calling. There's only so much eye-rolling I can take. Maybe if your insults have ever had any truth in them, I could have gained some introspection from listening to them.