New Saidit Feature: Now you can block individual users, so all their posts and comments will be automatically hidden from your view

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[–]FediNetizen 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

No, there's still plenty of reasons to complain, because the original problem still stands. This is a good tool to have (good for both the racists and the spammers), but the types of "fuck jews" content you see on the frontpage is a turnoff to most people, and the people that post that content themselves also tend to be pretty wound up as well. I had one guy tell me to "post nose" because my anti-racism was apparently "typical jew behavior". I had another guy call me a niggerfaggot because I disagreed with a guy who said BLM was the modern KKK.

It's not feasible to tell a new user to just start blocking every racist with the hopes that eventually they'll stop. Why join the site at that point when there are many other social media sites available that don't have this problem? The people for which there is a good answer to this question will tend to be the people for whom this isn't even a problem.

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I'm not defending some of the blatant antisemitism around here, but...

Why join the site at that point when there are many other social media sites available that don't have this problem?

Because some people are smart enough to realize that those problems would exist in any free-speech board, as long as antisemitism exists?
Those who fail to understand this are free to go back to their safe spaces - oh, wait, many of those who come here do so because they got kicked out of those spaces.

Others come here because, despite having some antisemites and a few total loonies, there is a large rational majority, much bigger than any other place that's free speech (excluding maybe www.gab.com).

[–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Because some people are smart enough to realize that those problems would exist in any free-speech board, as long as antisemitism exists?

Obviously anti-semitism exists. So does sexuality, and violent thoughts, etc. We have good ways to deal with that content: mark it sensitive. You can host that type of content but make it opt-in because you recognize it's sensitive and not appropriate for all contexts.

I would say expressions of sexuality are as valid as any other. The only exceptions are where they encourage harm (pedophilia, rape, etc). Obviously, you would disagree, which is funny because you readily accept both Saidit and Gab as free speech boards, despite both banning porn.

Why do you readily accept the outright ban of sexual expression, but insist that genuine racism must be shown on /s/all or else this isn't a free speech board? Why can't we accept that some topics are sensitive and should be opt-in rather than default?

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Ah, my old friend False Dischotomy, with a bit of Affirming the Disjunct to boot.

Your claim is that to support free speech, you must either support every type of expression or none at all? Yeah, that's a pile of bullards.

  1. A free speech forum can still decide on the range of topics it wants to cover. If it doesn't want to cover porn, but you are free to speak of any other topic, it's still a free speech board, as long as other topics are not selectively censored based on things unrelated to the decided range of discussion topics.

  2. Lines in the sand as to what constitutes harmful content has already been drawn, many years ago, and include many topics, such as the stated pedophilia and rape. What defines a true free speech platform is the resolve to not move those lines, protecting itself against a slippery slop leading in either direction. Dumpster fire sites like reddit have not treated those lines with respect, and look what they became over 10 years.