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[–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (27 children)

Because some people are smart enough to realize that those problems would exist in any free-speech board, as long as antisemitism exists?

Obviously anti-semitism exists. So does sexuality, and violent thoughts, etc. We have good ways to deal with that content: mark it sensitive. You can host that type of content but make it opt-in because you recognize it's sensitive and not appropriate for all contexts.

I would say expressions of sexuality are as valid as any other. The only exceptions are where they encourage harm (pedophilia, rape, etc). Obviously, you would disagree, which is funny because you readily accept both Saidit and Gab as free speech boards, despite both banning porn.

Why do you readily accept the outright ban of sexual expression, but insist that genuine racism must be shown on /s/all or else this isn't a free speech board? Why can't we accept that some topics are sensitive and should be opt-in rather than default?

[–]Jesus 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (18 children)

According to Trump, Dershowitz and the Likudniks including its leader Netanyahu (whom are all anti-Semitic against Palestinians), their actions encouraging and signing unconstitutional laws that deem anti-Israeli, anti-Judaism (meaning being against Talmudism or other Jewish supremacist religions), anti-Zionism statements, are all forms of anti-Semitism.

Ashkanazi Jews are not semitic, so where is the anti-Semitism? That's right, it's criticism. That's it. Criticizing Zionism, criticizing Israel, criticizing its government or Jewish supremacism or Jewish terrorist groups like the Stern Gang, Likud or Irgun is NOT anti-Semitic. We have freedom of speech here so we can criticize religion!!!

Just as I can freely expose the Likudniks that I believe orchestrated 9/11. If they happen to be mostly, Jews, so be it. I'm not angry at every Jew but for some odd reason these specific criminals like to hide under the cloak of anti-Semitism and the Jewish people as a whole.

Jews can criticize christianity all they want.

I would never advocate for violence or hate towards another human being but the idea that specific Jews use anti-Semitism, a misnomer, to call semitic people also anti-Semitic is idiotic.

So, I ask you, censorship person:

You can host that type of content but make it opt-in [Anti-Semitism]?!

So, define anti-Semitism?

If I don't believe Jews are a race does that make me an anti-Semite?

What is annoying are users spewing fallacies and ad hominems. Calling Jews terrible things or muslims "sandn-word", instead of criticizing either their specific actions, traditions, culture or beliefs. The later should not be censored!! But powerful Zionist interests want this censored. And you seem to be pushing this censorship even if in ignorance.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

I hope this whole comment was supposed to be making some joke that I just managed to totally miss. Anti-semitism is broadly understood to be hatred of Jews. It's similar to racism, except the main fucking reason we use the term anti-semitism is because being Jewish isn't just about belonging to a particular race, a point that appears to be totally lost on you, the guy who thought he was making a point with this brilliant line:

If I don't believe Jews are a race does that make me an anti-Semite?

No, it just means you've joined the rest of us in reality. There are people that identify as Jewish for ethnic reasons, religious reasons, and cultural reasons. And since it apparently wasn't obvious, my problem isn't with anti-semitism exclusively; that's just what I've seen the most often on this site.

The later should not be censored!! But powerful Zionist interests want this censored. And you seem to be pushing this censorship even if in ignorance.

The latter. The. Latter. You're missing a 't', bud. Powerful Zionist interests want you to come out of high school with a high-school-level mastery of the English language.

[–]Jesus 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

Anti------

Semitism-----

Most Jews are NOT SEMITIC though.

https://www.amazon.com/Ashkenazic-Jews-Slavo-Turkic-People-Identity/dp/0893572411

https://www.amazon.com/Zionist-Connection-II-Alfred-Lilienthal/dp/0949667331

The conclusion is, that it does not matter though if a person is a Jew, a Gentile claiming to be Jewish, or a Gentile; all must come to Jesus Messiah for salvation.

My point in the above post was that I have seen many revisionist-Zionist Jews spew anti-Semitic hate against Arabs. Judaism to me and other Orthodox Jews, is a religion above all, of the 1st covenant. For thousands of years Judaism was never considered a race. Palestinians and Arabs are, nevertheless, Semitic. I have a profound problem with Jewish terrorists like the Stern Gang, Irgun, Lehi and revisionist secular Jews who are really apostate Jews.

Zionists, first created and Nazis, later used the blood purity, race narrative to categorize Jews. Just read some of Herzl's writings and you'll see that he was totally delirious. Befriending anti-Judaics and calling Jews "kikes."

It makes sense though because some of the most prominent Zionist Jews loathed the assimilationist or diasporic Jews who refused to emigrate to Israel.

Powerful Zionist interests want you to come out of high school with a high-school-level mastery of the English language.

No, but certainly revisionist Zionists like the Likud had a direct hand in 9/11. Blaming muslim arabs for this false flag when all the Saudi "hijackers" had Mossad handlers in Hollywood, Fl., exposes severe anti-Semitism.

The latter. The. Latter. You're missing a 't', bud.

I don't have spellcheck on and your last sentence is a fallacy.

May God bless you. And may Yeshua guide you.

[–]joogabah 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The irony is that Palestinians may be descendants of Jews who were alive in the region during Christ's time, who later converted to Islam.

Have you read Dr. Judy Wood? There are a lot of anomalies surrounding 9/11 that can't be explained by either of the competing theories (the nonsense official theory, or the conventional controlled demolition theory).

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, very true. But the Likudniks have a small facet within their ranks that also push this notion that:

Yes, Palestinians can have a one state solution... However... They must convert to Judaism and follow Jewish law and serve in the IDF.

What is there reason for this? The likudniks say:

Well, Palestinians are Hebrews just like us. They were forced to convert to Islam 750 years ago. Hence, they need to convert back to Judaism and everything will be fine.

Too late Likudniks and not a sound argument.

If an entire mass of people, (group A) who converted to Islam, live in an area, with other Jews mind you, for nearly a thousand years practicing their religion and then some other group terrorizes them and steals all of their property 750 years later, do you think group A. would say, hey yes, you can have all of this land and we will convert back to our original religion of our ancestors to please you and serve in the IDF.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

https://invidio.us/watch?v=2CzzmJdJbYs

Good video, it shows that Jewish revisionist Zionists loathed diasporic Jews to the point of killing them. Think Iraqi Jews or Iranian Jews. The point is revisionist Zionists tried to dehumanize Iraqi and Iranian Jews even to the point of killing them.

That's why I've been saying that I see a lot of Zionists Jews spew anti-Judaic racial ad hominems on Jews, attacking their features to catagorize Jews. Herzl did this. The more fear a Jew has the more he will want to emigrate to Israel, which is exactly what the Zionists want.

Like I said, I see Trump supporters say the most anti-Judaic stuff against Jewish features, no logical arguments to be made, not even sound criticism. My question to them would be if you mock Jews all the time, why then do you support Trump and Netanyahu? The former figurehead is loved by revisionist Zionists and the Likud in Israel and the latter is the leader of Israel. So, having caught a lot of them supporting these figureheads their actions lead me to believe that they are Zionist Jews attacking Diasporic Jews.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Judaism to me and other Orthodox Jews, is a religion above all, of the 1st covenant

A religion whose followers went around calling themselves the 'sperma' of abraham. Come off it Jesus. Jews are a distinct racial and ethnic group. If they weren't you wouldn't be able to identify them with genetic testing. For your argument to work Jews would have to go around openly expounding their religion as universal and they'd have to also be open to outsiders which they clearly are not. By their own strict doctrines their not. So you have multiple points going against your argument: testing, history, religious text, the words of Jews themselves.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

95% of Jews are converts. They are NOT RACIAL. In fact calling Jews racial is exactly what certain Zionists would want you to say in order to keep Jews unified into pushing the Zionist doctrine. A doctrine that has persecuted many Jews and is the enmey of a Jew.

Jews are an ethnic group. With culture and heritage and a false religion. Albeit one I wholeheartedly disagree with. They are not bound by blood or race. Only a very, very small semitic sevt is that can prove they are from the tribe of Judah. 2000 years there has been far too much intermarrying and gene mixing to contend that Jews are a race. Jews themselves before the inquisition never believed they were either.

For your argument to work Jews would have to go around openly expounding their religion as universal and they'd have to also be open to outsiders which they clearly are not. By their own strict doctrines their not. So you have multiple points going against your argument: testing, history, religious text, the words of Jews themselves.

Those DNA tests alone have been contradicted by other DNA tests and even the ones you claim still donnot prove they are from the tribe of Judah.

They do not expound their talmudism, Jewish Cabala beliefs, Zoharism because they renounced Yeshua and have been persecuted theoughout history. The current religious Jews of today are the biblical offshoot of the pro-Creditor Hillel sect and the Pharisees. Not by race but by religious parallelsin their rabbinicalism and supremacy.

The atheistic Jews and communists, many growing up in rabbinical homes renounced their religiosity for humanism or atheistic revisionist Zionism.

They are not really Jews, because being a Jew means you practice a religion, albieit, a false one. That secrecy does not mean there has to be some sort of interconnecting blood /racial link.

Testing fails to me tion the Khazarian theory and that they encompass all different areas in the Pale of Settelment where the Khazarian empire was and Turkey and later Germany. They are not semitic, in the sense that they have a racial link to the tribe of Judah. That lie alone feeds the Zionist doctrine.

Ashkenazi Jews came from Japheth through Ashkanaz in eastern Europe. Many of them were converts. Some practiced Judaism well before the mass conversion. Read Wesxler's book on thr Ashkanazic Jews and their slavic-turkic connections. There are many other studies on this subject as well.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

95% of Jews are converts.

I kindly request a source for this claim. The process of non Jewish conversion is lengthy and not an easy process. To say 95% of the 14 million Jews in the world are 'converts' is a laughable claim. Listen to Luke Ford explain his conversion process to Eric Striker. It's not easy.

Jews are an ethnic group

I thought you just said they were a religion. So they are an ethnic group religion with no blood relation? Do you see how inconsistent that sounds? Most ethnic religions have a strong blood connection as well. How do you explain the Jewish idea that children of Jewish mothers are automatically Jewish without any need to convert?

Those DNA tests alone have been contradicted by other DNA tests and even the ones you claim still donnot prove they are from the tribe of Judah.

Ah; and there it is. You can only be a 'blood' jew if you're of the tribe of Judah? That's laughable because we have no reliable way of tracing who is and isn't of the tribe of Judah. If you're just relying on ancient texts there's multiple ways to read those. You can even say most of the semite tribe left the Levant and populated the Uk, German and the rest of continental Europe (making whites the real semites). There's no consistency in the interpretation of ancient texts. There is consistency in the genetic data that shows most Jews are genetically connected to each other, Ashkenazim included. Even mainstream scientists like Pinker admit to this. And let's not even get into all the 13th tribe theories and Kazaria.

The current religious Jews of today are the biblical offshoot of the pro-Creditor Hillel sect and the Pharisees. Not by race but by religious parallelsin their rabbinicalism and supremacy.

Got it. So somewhere along the line some random group of power hungry people just 'hijacked' the entire structure of the Jewish religion and are parading around as Jews? Do you realize how bold this claim is? You haven't provided any evidence of this and you shouldn't expect people to believe such strong claims without a lot of evidence.

The atheistic Jews and communists, many growing up in rabbinical homes renounced their religiosity for humanism or atheistic revisionist Zionism.

I strongly disagree. Jews, as E. Michael Jones painfully documents in his book The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit, have always been revolutionaries wherever they go. Communism, radical secularism, athiesms, academic critical theory, LGBTPEDO activism, and the SJW/cancel culture is a 'revolutionary' political expression that is similar to Jewish groups in the past.

They are not really Jews, because being a Jew means you practice a religion, albieit, a false one

You can't just reject Jews because you don't like how they practice their radical Jewish disposition. The Jewish community around the world needs to own the revolutionaries operating in the US and UK far left groups the same way they need to own the bolshivik commissars. If they don't they're going to be severely blindsided when gentiles again move to quarantine, prosecute and eject Jews from gentile societies.

Testing fails to me tion the Khazarian theory and that they encompass all different areas in the Pale of Settelment where the Khazarian empire was and Turkey and later Germany

Please find me a native 'Khazarian' so we can test this theory. (I'm not totally against the Khazaria idea but it's tough to empirically prove)

That secrecy does not mean there has to be some sort of interconnecting blood /racial link.

Again. According to Judaism itself it does.

They are not semitic, in the sense that they have a racial link to the tribe of Judah.

How is it that you can prove the Ashkenazim have blood ties to khazaria and not judah? How can you disprove if someone makes the claim that the jews ran to khazaria from the levant/judah?

Ashkenazi Jews came from Japheth through Ashkanaz in eastern Europe

And where were they before that?

Many of them were converts. Some practiced Judaism well before the mass conversion.

Of if you're talking about the Kingdom of Khazaria's conversion that doesn't mean the ruling class of Khazaria weren't blood jews connected to Judah.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Judasim is more or less a religion some might contend cult.

Race and ethnicity mean two very different things and are not interchangeable in this context. Most Jews hold unto their ethno-nationalism because of persecution and their notable victimization complex. Judaism harbors a culture and in common but sometimes contradicting faith.

Race is the physical characterization of group of people in which its members all share in common. Such as color of skin or shape of face. There are a lot fewer races than there are ethnicities. Hence, why I can say a large portion of Jewish sects hold an ethnic commonality. Some, Jews, like Schlomo Sand even contend that this ethnic-nationalism is an utter ruse. Are Jews some sort of pure race to you? They must have done a lot of sexting with their cousin if so. What racial traits do Ethiopian Jews share with Ashkenazi Jews? DNA doesn't define race. Some might then contend that Jews, specifically, Ashkanazi Jews carry specific/unique diseases, but recent studies have sown these are regional diseases, not genetic ones.

Anon stated, and I cannot agree with him more:

Jews can't say say the bible is a fraud though because they try to use it to justify their connection to Israel or the twelve tribes. Without the bible, and their interpretation, there are no Israelites, Judahite sorry even "Jewish" people. This is why Jewish atheists are redundant in ideology. Without the bible, there is no Israel.

As far as owning sovereignty of the land, it is from the bible. Secular Zionists still believe the land is theirs, but they got this ideology from the bible. Religious Zionists take verses from the bible to say that they own the land. So in essence, they still believe the bible gave them a right to the land. But as all kingdoms, many conquest and conquerors come and go.

But again, from the primary discussion, Jews aren't a race, DNA is mixed and not pure over many generations, no distinct phenotype or genotype. Jewish history starts with Judea....not even Israel. The encyclopedia Judaica states that Jews were not Israelites.

Ashkenazic holds a body of customs binding on Jews of an ancestry howver long, albeit with gene-mixing and intermarrying. Reform Judaism, still a religion, persay, originated among Ashkenazi Jews.

Ethnicity is your culture. Ashkenazic is thus an ethnicity. In order for Jews to be a race, they’d have to be Semitic. But Semitism does not equal Judaism or Jewishness. Which is what the majority of the ethnic-nationalist Ashkanazi Jews use as a precedent for land grabs. That they were bound to the land, that it is holy to them, despite their apostasy.

Although, I do not want to admit it, the Jewish people are today very much a national group. That is why we see leftist-Jews like Max Blumenthal attack those who question the legitimacy of the state of Israel despite Blumenthal not being religious and being all the same empathetic towards Palestinians. Hence, it is religion and when it is not? it is materialism. Most religious Jews would thus call these non-religious “Jews”, that might still practice some Jewish traditions, not Jews at all, or in some Hasidic Jewish circles if they needed to use these non-religious “Jews for the ‘good of the cause’they would utilize integrationalism, such as what the Chabad Lubavitchers do. That is the belief that if you believe you’re Jewish or work to push their agenda, you can be integrated among the Jews. Hence, the conversion of Christians to slaves of noahidism!

Although anyone familiar with Jews and Judaism would recognize that Jews are not a race, this hasn't prevented outsiders from labeling us as such. After the Enlightenment, it became less acceptable to hate Jews for religious reasons, (Talmudism is more than enough to criticize) and so social darwinistic racial pseudo-science became the excuse. (Pushed by political Zionists and Nazis) Hitler and the Nazis were examples of this, defining Jewish identity in racial terms and hating Jews on a racial rather than religious basis (though religion, historically, created the atmosphere of hatred). ~~ Quora There were of course other reasons why a people didn’t like Jews, one such reason was conflating the common Jews with court Jews and wealthy usurious Jewish bankers, many times being the King’s money Lenders. There’s an old proverb which states: The Rothschild’s were not the King of the Jews but the King of the Kings. Despite this, the fact that one can convert to Judaism and that Jews span multiple racial categories (there are Jews who are Caucasian, Black, Hispanic, Asian, etc.) proves this categorization to be false. Moreover, the counterpart of Ashkenazi is Sephardic, since most non-Ashkenazi Orthodox Jews follow Sephardic rabbinical authorities, whether or not they are ethnically Sephardic.

Yiddishkeit is specifically the Jewishness of Ashkenazi Jews. Meaning their culture can be opposed to their counterparts in Spain that number far fewer.

Relations between Ashkenazim and Sephardim have at times been tense and clouded by arrogance, snobbery and claims of racial superiority with both sides claiming the inferiority of the other, based upon such features as physical traits and culture.

Ashkanazi Jews have been noted to treat the minority Sephardim Jews in Israel with disrespect and demonization. Again, even Jews can fall into the race canard to use it as a means to degrade the other. Herzl and his political Zionist pupils were quite notorious for doing this. The absolutely loathed assimilationist Jews, occasionally calling for pogroms.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Part 2

There are 6 million Ashkenazi Jews in the US; 3 million Ashkenazi Jews in Israel, possibly this is higher.

The name Ashkenazi derives from the biblical figure of Ashkenaz, the first son of Gomer, son of Japhet, son of Noah, and a Japhetic patriarch in the Table of Nations (Genesis 10). The name of Gomer has often been linked to the ethnonym Cimmerians.

Dr. Eran Elhaik has published two research papers which cite Sand's work extensively. Eran Elhaik - geneticist responsible for validating one version of the "Khazarian Hypothesis" - is hardly the quack he's been made out to be by Forbes, JPost, et al. He's a paid consultant for National Geographic's Genographic Project. Basically, Elhaik accusse scientists and historians of the "Rhineland Hypothesis" of selectively presenting data to support the political agenda of Zionist historiography - a view of history which prefers to jump from Second Temple Judaism all the way to Herzl.

https://watermark.silverchair.com/evw046.pdf?token=AQECAHi208BE49Ooan9kkhW_Ercy7Dm3ZL_9Cf3qfKAc485ysgAAAqAwggKcBgkqhkiG9w0BBwagggKNMIICiQIBADCCAoIGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAeBglghkgBZQMEAS4wEQQM6Bm2w4Vs_MwFWqNrAgEQgIICU9hyJDcHNaYNzcspmlnMJyE8GP3zy0E6ySW_Okakd-Xtrmw_qnNIh5S9Z1QtbOgWA66dNlMOA67KshGK1P_mni03BKn73BvNLXA_oycM51Pgq9taSQ20AK_TA35e9U4oJLHWK6TUIftmmhAMTx5u60FZ82HBy184jbNBsCwolhm1UPo3y_kamgI73FfE4ITnZUzP_N_2aEtMrwImurcE69ZK54BrArNW5HPqftEW2eHMsk1RImxNmVnb6YcPts6TLnNKnx-s59prdcJJVxFGOAnejdSad1WOmSWhbu-qxAmHM37pOKQDWoJ6I2tD7NHso2gv9JEw7ycH-NV1Ea3V-v9v2o9YeSuukITU1JjuaPn4mMeOUU7nZj8RUr-5UES4cVg7U63CcMsQAbi4OtqSCVL1mnZD-82Dr65Jh5QfvRo4rgqlbgQNiB_KzCqtajQqe9TsVxdnUZcGiIL5ed8gkAoos9UloYbCB9-Bof6hCJ_yJnEbIqTvigVY_OtKRWFVCzN_Yz9l-V5146jpbIA-KUb74YV6yY3urm0pMAd6wyhGMMpe7Lac0aLcBYGcoU92jDIJfS0WtXlMsI1NJdFmv94WTcVNdk6V15hBMK6uyk-2BEg09it4c9K9Caey64gFRWdLJFMRtLvWhtobEcwdvHEh4RW3zeRk-iEa--JQ8KSnJmAERmSb_ggk30KQnOJVOifzh6L-V6A1cs35wccRsbr5nLowRd52rhfQkJSPRBh1Mxbd7wP-pw9i_iM2omxpFd-NRzv--DLl9n3AWYqsd2H9o6g

The first, "The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses", came out in December 2012 argued that genetic evidence points to a "mosaic of Near Eastern-Caucasus, European, and Semitic ancestries" within the founding population of modern European Jews.[18] The theory proved highly controversial, and was contested by a number of historians and several geneticists.[19] Elhaik's second paper, in collaboration with others, similarly used Sand's work and concluded that the Ashkenazi descend from 'a heterogeneous Iranian population, which later mixed with Eastern and Western Slavs and possibly some Turks and Greeks in the territory of the Khazar Empire around the 8th century A.D.

In 2016, Wexler and geneticist Eran Elhaik co-authored a study that analyzed the geographical origin of Yiddish speakers using a method called Geographic Population Structure (GPS) to analyze their DNA. They claimed that the DNA has originated in Northeastern Turkey in four villages whose names were, they argued, derived from the word "Ashkenaz." The predicted location was also on the hub of Silk Road routes and close to the Khazarian Empire, as predicted by Wexler and in contrast with the predictions of the Rhineland hypothesis. The authors argue that this is where a non-Germanic "pre-Yiddish" was developed as an undocumented language for trade and that with the Judaization of Slavs it acquired its alleged Slavic component.[19] This argument has been criticized by both geneticists and linguists, who argue that there are serious methodological flaws in its linguistic and genetic components. In addition to conventional linguistic approaches demonstrating that Yiddish is descended from Old High German, the Geographic Population Structure (GPS) tool is not suitable "for admixed populations and for tracing ancestry up to 1,000 years before present, as its authors have previously claimed."

https://academic.oup.com/gbe/article/8/4/1132/2574015

"We conclude that the genome of European Jews is a tapestry of ancient populations including Judaized Khazars, Greco–Roman Jews, Mesopotamian Jews, and Judeans and that their population structure was formed in the Caucasus and the banks of the Volga with roots stretching to Canaan and the banks of the Jordan."

According to Elhaik:

There is an entire section (“The Geographical and Ancestral Origins of AJs”) in Das et al. (2016) that addresses this issues :

“GPS findings raise two concerns: first that the Turkish “Ashkenaz” region may be the centric location of other regions rather than the place where the Ashkenazic Jewish admixture signature was formed; second, in the absence of “Ashkenazic” Turks it is impossible to compare the genetic similarity between the two populations to validate the common origins implied by the GPS results.”

Hence Elhaik’s study contradicts the assertion that Jews are one Semitic group from ancient Israel; this also debunks, even if they all were Semitic, that certain Jews somehow have a right to own all of Israel, which they are currently trying to do through ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.

https://www.amazon.com/Jews-Khazaria-Kevin-Alan-Brook/dp/074254981X

https://books.google.nl/books?id=3ZzXjdyK-CEC&pg=PA387&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://books.google.nl/books?id=XZwO2TX8EOcC&pg=PA25&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://books.google.nl/books?id=JL7CY2MW63gC&pg=PA537&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://invidio.us/watch?v=_F-kthqjHus

2:05 Israeli’s answer is on point:

https://invidio.us/watch?v=7wKrbPsAJDc

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Got it. So somewhere along the line some random group of power hungry people just 'hijacked' the entire structure of the Jewish religion and are parading around as Jews? Do you realize how bold this claim is? You haven't provided any evidence of this and you shouldn't expect people to believe such strong claims without a lot of evidence.

Yes, certainly. But they are Jews some religious some secular but follow Jewish traditions.

There's crazies and fundamentalists in all religions. Maybe read Israel Shahak? He's Jewish and a humanist and exposes the state of Israel and Zionism tirelessly.

Of if you're talking about the Kingdom of Khazaria's conversion that doesn't mean the ruling class of Khazaria weren't blood jews connected to Judah.

But no evidence supports this. They converted in mass. Even If they are from Judah, they rejected Christ. They have no rights to the land of Israel as a whole.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Naw.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Zionism is the greatest threat to humanity. It should be seen most often.

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

He specifically referred to this post, and from what I understand, he wants posts like that one to be opt-in. Although I don't agree with that approach, I get where he's coming from. There's nothing constructive about a post like that. All it does is scare away new users and ruin the experience for others, especially the person being replied to.

Anyway, this clearly falls under Pyramid of Debate (name-calling) and the solution is to report the user. So I'm not calling for censorship. Just pointing out that /u/FediNetizen is probably talking about something different from what you have in mind.

Calling Jews terrible things or muslims "sandn-word"

I think this is precisely what he's talking about. But I'll leave it up to him to clarify on that.

[–]Jesus 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, crap like that should not be posted. It is not a logical refutation or argument or criticism against Judaism or Jewish supremacism or anything for that matter. All he did was categorize Jews into a distinct race with prominent features and mock them.

That's something Herzl, the founder of political Zionism did.

Also, this same user voted for Trump. And, I know, as do others here, that Trump is a fervent Zionist and quite loved by the Likudniks in Israel. So, I find it quite odd that he voted for Trump but uses this sort of anti-Judaic rhetoric. I can only conclude he might be trying to ruin this place or scare Jews away—maybe even to Israel. Surely, the Likudniks want nothing more than for Jews to emigrate to Israel. The more come, the more settlements will be built, the less land for Palestinians.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Basically that post should have been monitored and if the poster kept on spewing fallacies, banned. If we are to follow the pyramid of debate accordingly.

This is not a free speech sub to spew fallacies, but this current block feature will only create more echo chambers which I despise.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'd like to see another option when submitting a "report" on a user. A step more intense than just reporting on low tier content, a private "nomination to ban" that is not anonymous, but only between the user and the admin. When a user unnecessarily over-uses the admin can PM that person to cool it. Otherwise this might be useful in isolating trolls faster and more effectively. Or maybe the report already does that.

/u/magnora7 and /u/d3rr thoughts?

[–]send_nasty_stuff 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

these specific criminals like to hide under the cloak of anti-Semitism and the Jewish people as a whole.

It's a common traits of intelligent criminals to create a gambit that keeps them immune from investigation.

[–]zero8 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Im fine with the porn ban on saidit, admins say its too much trouble monitoring porn for illegal content so they rather ban it, theres already thousands of porn sites and they arent being censored its peoples thoughts and opinions that are being censored.

[–]Extract 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ah, my old friend False Dischotomy, with a bit of Affirming the Disjunct to boot.

Your claim is that to support free speech, you must either support every type of expression or none at all? Yeah, that's a pile of bullards.

  1. A free speech forum can still decide on the range of topics it wants to cover. If it doesn't want to cover porn, but you are free to speak of any other topic, it's still a free speech board, as long as other topics are not selectively censored based on things unrelated to the decided range of discussion topics.

  2. Lines in the sand as to what constitutes harmful content has already been drawn, many years ago, and include many topics, such as the stated pedophilia and rape. What defines a true free speech platform is the resolve to not move those lines, protecting itself against a slippery slop leading in either direction. Dumpster fire sites like reddit have not treated those lines with respect, and look what they became over 10 years.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

And understand this Fedi:

This kind of crap is anti-Judaic:

Either post your nose or go the fuck back to reddit. Typical Jew excusing disproportionately violent black criminal behavior. Hate to break it to you, but us filthy goyim are catching onto how you kikes allow your golem's to attack us and our kids. 110 then again and again :)

I condone not one single tithe of this.

Now if you read some old books on Herzl and other prominent Zionists in the early 20th century you'll notice that they worked with Nazis to transfer Jews to Palestine. They all in many of thier diaries used this sort of language.

For instance, look at many of the American Nazi parties. Some of the most priminent ones were led by Zionist Jews to SCARE JEWS to emmigrate to Israel. These Jews are nothing but a burden on every other Jew.

Lenni Brenner, a Jew, exposes the partnership with wealthy Jews and Nazis.

I've read enough to know that wealthy powerful Jew do not care about the common Jew just as power people in washington care not a drop for the welfare of others.

[–]joogabah 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Zionism is Jewish nationalism, the cardinal feature of fascist ideologies.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It is. People co fuse Zionism with communism, although one could make the case that Mussoliniynism had features of authoritarian collectivist programs, but nevertheless Zionism is Ethno-Nationalism and racial supremacism. That's percisely why the p2 fascist lodge, world brotherhood incorporated, CMC-permindex and the CIA with Italian fascists like Gelli worked with the Likudniks (revisionist Zionists) to assassinate JFK.

Jfk said he would splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces. They didn't like him. The mob (such as Lanksy and murder Inc. adherants to the Likud also DID NOT like him for his anti-mob stamces and Israel hated him once he became president because of his staunch dispraise and fight against Dimona and the Israeli nuclear program.

All these fascist and authoritarian agencies worked together to kill JFK.

And only FEW JFK researchers will go far enough and follow the money trail to admit it.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

On fire with the truth!

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I think the revisionist Zionists are anti-Semitic. The revisionist Zionists think I'm anti-Semitic and sign laws to censor speech. free speech is free speech.

Report the user for fallacies.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Obviously anti-semitism exists

As does loxism. But you I bet you've never heard about one of those words and you've heard a LOT about the other.