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[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Oh goody! the "diversity social cohesion" myth again! You haven't actually read anything about it have you? Here's a refutation by The Alternative Hypothesis, who used to be your peoples little golden boy until he caught up with the research: https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2018/08/10/ethnic-diversity-and-social-cohesion-a-critique/

Diversity has no effect on social capital. The reason Americans are less trusting than ever is actually the real reason behind personality degradation. Health. Obesity. The less healthy you perceive yourself to be, the less trusting you are of other people, because the more neurotic you are. That's causal. Not a correlation like Putnam and the bullshit you cite.

[–]Zahn 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

How cute, really grasping at straws there. You present for perusal a no name author, with only tangential experience in anything remotely related to a sociological background. Who then proceeds to cobble together a flimsy "critique" as he says, of studies by actual real scientists that have previously concluded that invasive immigration is socially destructive.

In conclusion, I don’t think the social-scientific literature I am aware of has compellingly shown that diversity qua diversity has an important effect on social cohesion.

This is all you've got? We should irreparably disintegrate western culture because some student cherry picked studies to curate a predetermined hypothesis to explain rising social incohesion.

Let me guess, you yourself don't live in a vibrantly diverse neighborhood.....Do you?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I present a blog post by a well recognized participant from your "side of the isle" summarizing a number of very well done studies with large sample sizes. We can discuss the merits of the individual research if you wish, I'm familiar with all of it, but I suspect you've never read a single one in your life. Case in point: You don't know what the null hypothesis is.

This is all you've got? We should irreparably disintegrate western culture because some student cherry picked studies to curate a predetermined hypothesis to explain rising social incohesion.

If repeatedly well done research fails to demonstrate a causal effect... you do not have evidence to support your proposition. In other words, the strongest negation of your beliefs possible. That you think this is somehow a weak refutation says a lot more about you, and a sad lack of education.

[–]Zahn 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Your evidence:

I present a blog post

Your student tier cherry picked "refutation" has been conclusively debunked by actual scientists, but you won't go beyond your confirmation bubble to figure this out.

The majority of studies conclude that invasive immigration is the primary cause of lack of social cohesion. Most people in the sociological field reject the premise of your blog post author. I'm sorry this conflicts with your narrow minded view of the world, but you must come to terms with this.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

...A link to summaries of all major works to replicate and analyze causal analysis of Putnam's initial hypothesis. From someone who agreed, originally, with you. By, yes, actual scientists. You can read the studies themselves. Do you actually want to discuss any of them? Or do I give up and block you?

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Did you ever stop and wonder why the blog post you presented is never cited as proof by professionals? Because it's fundamentally flawed and intellectually dishonest. Not all studies by Putnam were precisely replicated. So this unscrupulous author only cherry picks studies that further his point that were not replicated.

Over 70% of Putnams findings were replicated. According to authors from the very same website you previously linked.

https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/ethnic-diversity-and-social-cohesion/

Homogeneity is the common denominator for social cohesion.

[–]KraigGronowski 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It is blatantly obvious that the more a society is similar the more cohesive it is. The fact you can't see this and need studies on it proves you are what is completely wrong with society :-) Next you will be quoting studies on why lions only attack buffalo because of capitalism. Why don't you go off and make your own little leftish shithole.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm going to guess you didn't read what I linked. To repeat the point: No, what you believe is not supported by the data. The factors that do control cohesion are, in order: Health, wealth, relative poverty.

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The factors that do control cohesion are, in order: Health, wealth, relative poverty.

These are factors, but is not the main reason for the breakdown of social trust.

I'm still waiting to hear about the vibrantly diverse neighborhood you live in. Talk about your experiential knowledge on the subject.

[–]KraigGronowski 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh so being Jewish had nothing to do with the cohesion problems in Germany under Hitler?

[–]KraigGronowski 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

"diversity social cohesion" myth

LoL who is lying? If diversity is no problem to cohesion why not not put anyone in jail? Just let those diverse range of criminals roam free. Why does israel wall off Palestinians? Surely just because some people want to car bomb shouldn't ruin the cohesion?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Uhhh, the topic was ethnic diversity. Ideologies that cause people to plant car bombs is not ethnic diversity. There isn't a "car bomb gene".

[–]KraigGronowski 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

There isn't a "car bomb gene".

Do you have a study proving that? :-)

[–]mikipika 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Haha. Like when a flat-earther calls it a "globe." YOU just outed your own lies.