Saidit is currently undergoing the largest DDOS attack we've ever had

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[–][deleted] 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (63 children)

This is my problem. I'm tired of internet extremism, but the extremists will happily work tirelessly all day every day for free. As if they ever persuade anyone to their asinine conspiracies. The issue is, without the ability for people to filter them out, or filter out places they congregate, they take over for the reason you describe. I'm sick of seeing that shit, and if people can't get it off their feed they'll definitely leave eventually.

[–]anarchy753 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Absolutely. Like I'm more than happy for people to have their crazy theories, and I can hide conspiracy theories from /s/all but then politics is flooded with it. Not the worst, if I actually care about politics I'm probably looking at a sub about a specific branch. Then they're in Saidit, and videos, and whatever and basically anything that hits the front page is filled with them. Just keep it contained so we don't have it forced on us.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I assure you, once you can block individual people (nevermind apparently you have to do it from the inbox page - I forgot old reddit - but sadly not from a users posts), I'm going to be creating a long list. Hopefully the website owner has the sense to implement some sort of filtering sooner, rather than later. It's one thing to host their nonsense, it's quite another to force everyone to be seeing it. Perhaps the best way forward is for people to make their own pages that explicitly disallow off-topic conversations, or racism, in the meanwhile.

Really, these people just perpetually flood wherever they can from /pol/ to try hijacking other places with their BS. Only way to deal with them is to ignore them.

[–]anarchy753 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The issue is as soon as you filter content you're removed from all.

[–]Fitter_Happier 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (42 children)

As if they ever persuade anyone to their asinine conspiracies

This is where you're wrong. If it weren't for the non-stop censorship driven by the ADL, most public forums swing right due to good arguments of the right, because the Left has no logical argument, they MUST censor to give the appearance of winning arguments.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (41 children)

Oh really? Such as? Enlighten me.

[–]Fitter_Happier 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (40 children)

This will take a while but you could start here: https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2020/07/13/secure-tolerance-the-jewish-plan-to-permanently-silence-the-west-part-1/

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (39 children)

Nope. The same kind of BS you get from communists blaming the capitalists. Blaming ideological positions on specific groups of people when, on the whole, they align more with geography and wealth to begin with. If you cannot actually defend your position, I'm not going to waste my time. All you have is a conspiracy theory on the basis that some Jews have opinions you don't like, and an opinion shared by plenty of other races with high income brackets. Ultimately all your gripes amount to is "Waaaah some Jews do better than me and believe things I don't like waaaah"

[–]Fitter_Happier 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (38 children)

as if you read that in the last 2 minutes. fucking ignoramus.

[–]Anatolia 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

he's not debating in good faith and is breaking the rules of the debate pyramid

https://saidit.net/static/PyramidDebate.jpg

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (36 children)

I'm intimately familiar with this kind of thing from having argued with people like you for half a decade. Can you actually come up with a defense of your position? No? I thought not. Because it's always the same from people like you. You pretend nobody can argue against you, and the second anybody does you cry about it and claim victory. Feel free to make an attempt, maybe you somehow have some magical argument that presents your side as more than just conspiracy theorists looking for someone to blame for your failures.

[–]Anatolia 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (35 children)

You should read the debate pyramid

https://saidit.net/static/PyramidDebate.jpg

you are at the point of namecalling. but keep going

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

Again, no, I have repeatedly offered you to defend your position. You have not. For the third time in a row, you are refusing to. All I did was explain I am intimately familiar with it, and criticize it. This is your last chance to put up some kind of argument.

[–]Anatolia 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (33 children)

and criticize it.

you never criticized any distinct points, you just said people like him are idiots looking for someone else to blame for their failures. (a pretty inflammatory thing to say honestly, do you really know anything about the people you are commenting to?)

I think you need to take a breather, or criticize specific points if you want a discussion. OR you just don't want any discussion. That's cool too!

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    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    Being able to block people is not censorship. You have no right to my thoughts. Nobody does. The fundamental difference compared to what's being invaded with here, and the positions you outlined, is all 3 of them granted fair personal liberties to people who should never have been denied them in the first place. "Jews did it" is not about personal liberty, it's about trying to encourage hate and supremacy opposed to an imaginary nemesis - like the communists against the rich.

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      [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      Knock yourself out. I not only found zero truth to them, but found plenty of the opposite in both cases. BLM is based on a lie, as is any other group trying to essentialize their life problems to some other race. And instead of addressing real problems, like police misconduct our necessary overhauls our judicial system needs (like reducing prosecutorial power) go entirely unnoticed while extremists make up fictional problems and enemies to fight.

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        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        The issue is, I've done this for many years now. Starting with creationists some 15-20 years ago. The fact is I've never seen any shred of evidence a particular kind of person wants to actually have a discussion. You must've seen this, they rove around in groups and mass-report people trying to debate them on places like Twitter or Youtube. Platforms actively unlist and derank critics of certain ideologies, and the result is you're flipping a coin hoping the rush to implement the mobs demands doesn't backfire. And the mob doesn't want to talk.

        A perfect example here is qualified immunity. It is being and has been abused, but do you really think the ideal solution is totally removing it? How many people do you think would want to be a public servant if making a mistake now makes you legally liable for the consequences? Qualified immunity has far reaching consequences way beyond just the police.

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          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          If you are willing to concede the problem of the mob effects writ large, then you surely understand my immense cynicism after so long an experience on a variety of topics. If you start to feel homeless intellectually, and isolated socially, it just gets worse from there. Of course I think this cynicism is very well deserved. Of course I don't want to argue these ridiculous same topics for the 500th time in a row. It starts to feel like every day is the same, and that you're in an insane asylum.

          If I knew what to do about it, I'd be doing it. Pretending it isn't a problem has not been an option for me for a while now. Sometimes I think maybe, just maybe, if I talk about it, something might change or I'll reach some other understanding. So far that has not been the case.

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            [–]Brokinnoggin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Yeah, nah. Nazi rhetoric isn't ever going to be the go to... Which is what people are wanting to not see.

            [–]hfxB0oyA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            I think a reasonable approach is to let individuals decide what they don't want to see. Don't like the bullshit references to jewish conspiracies? Filter. Tired of "white supremacy" being thrown around whenever someone's holds a door open for an elderly black lady? Filter. Whether left or right, these assholes get off on other people getting angry. So if you don't see them, you can just let them shout themselves blue into the void.

            [–]1hairlessmonkey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            Only weak easily offended people. Honestly, if you dont like what someone has to say simply move on, you don't have to agree or respond, just find something that appeals to you and go there. I genuinely don't understand what the problem is, to me, its very helpful to have free speech, when people tell you what is in their mind then its easy to know whom to avoid. Of course there is going to be alot of terrible statements popping up on these sites because people can be immature and think its funny, or whatever reasons there may be, doesn't mean it will drive people away. If it does then I would suggest those folks would be wise to stay off the internet because its everywhere!! You will always have those people who try and ruin things for everyone, don't play along and maybe it doesn't change things but doesn't have to ruin things either

            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            ...And? Did you miss the entire context where people are simply asking for the ability to mute/block people? Idiots can say whatever they want. Other people can be spared having to read it. If you truly think "It's everywhere", it says a lot more about your chosen haunts than it does the supposed "weakness" of people who don't want to have their time wasted.

            [–]1hairlessmonkey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            You can block people quite easily. There is a little square that you can click on that says "block user".

            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            If they reply. Currently, not preemptively. And at the time the post was being discussed mute sub had only just been introduced. Do try to actually understand the context of what you're replying to, if you please? Or at least ask if you're confused.

            [–]EvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            The issue is these people aren't extremist. They're mostly left wing Reddit liberals and cucks that don't want their internet stranglehold weakened. They do the same thing with gab. They litter the site with extremist prop with alt accounts so they can go "see see see, look how extreme and racist that site is, it should be shut down!"