The same people who say we need to "stop with the anti-semitism" are the same ones who will support anti-White rhetoric as free speech

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[–]Extract 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Actual reasons they choose antisemitism, over other made-up problems (such as "bigotry" or "homophobia"):

  1. It's a legit concern for most users here - a good contern-troll needs to offer at least a somewhat real problem, even when jumping to an intentionally bad solution.

  2. It's a division point between most moderate-right/center and some far-right groups, and as such, the propaganda paddlers are hoping to farther divide their opposition.

People like you need to understand that you aren't in war against DA JUICE, but are actually under assault by expert propaganda companies who know their audience to a T.

[–]Bitchcraft 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

People like you need to understand that you aren't in war against DA JUICE, but are actually under assault by expert propaganda companies

So much of the extremely off-topic, blatant, low effort anti-semitic comments (on the internet in general, not just here) feel like a false flag to frame communities as alt-right. That's why it tends to spill into everything, the "collateral damage" was actually the intended target.

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That's because they are - actual far-right loonies supporting it is what makes this the (currently) most effective type of false flagging at the moment.
You just need a few dedicated accounts paddling this crap to either side (antisemitism vs SJW rethoric), and if it's allowed to stay and fester, the forum quickly loses legitimacy in the eyes of most users (see Voat).
This is probably the biggest strength of specific-interest forums like TheDonald.win - if you don't claim to be a free-speech forum, you can target those divisive shills at their roots.
On the other hand, actual free-speech forums rely on the users to constantly keep watch for those shills, which is much harder.

[–]takeyourjoyjohn 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow well said. I am ashamed to say that seeing some of the hateful stuff was making me lose faith in saidit as well. But what you're saying is making sense.

It's helping me, instead, to look into these posts that originally made me anxious and shy away as an opportunity to gain insight and understanding. I'm learning that you can really learn alot when you read from the radicals and the rationals. The tricky part is staying grounded because, honestly, no one is immune to manipulation.