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[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 34 insightful - 11 fun34 insightful - 10 fun35 insightful - 11 fun -  (20 children)

Black memes, nigger jokes, Mohammed is a pedo, We wanna kill Christ again... All kosher memes and free speech.... But everything has a fine line, goyim, remember that, or we shut you down! Like Paypal lets ADL shut down speech we don't like. All legit. Stop making us uncomfortable with truth.

[–]sudd3nclar1ty 17 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 5 fun -  (19 children)

Meh more like you're free to shout your ignorance from the tallest shit pile. Do you! I don't associate with racists because it's embarrassing, not because I'm scurred of truth lol

[–]Tom_Bombadil 22 insightful - 4 fun22 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 4 fun -  (18 children)

Democracy means the citizens have some ability to discuss and influence policy in their communities.

There is a 100 year old plan (Kalgeri Plan) to reduce the homogeneity of Europe and dissolve Western nations.

The Kalergi in his own words:

"(European) man of the future will be mixed races. Today's races and classes will disappear due to the disappearance of space (nations) and time."The Pan-European plan of Kalergi envisaged the use of violent and disproportionate mass immigration, especially from non-European countries, in order to bring about a common European state dictatorship and the destruction of the indigenous white population - the nationalities of Europe.

Do people disagree that the demographics in Europe are rapidly changing?

Is it antisemitic to discuss the history of this plan, and the factors that continue to drive this change? Wikipedia indicates that it is, but we know who's controlling that propaganda operation... (Zionists Manipulating Internet And Wikipedia - some will find this shocking).

Is it antisemitic to show a local Israeli news station promoting a Wikipedia editing workshop?

Should citizens in European "democracies" be allowed to discuss factual history, and the resulting impact on current events?

Are "Democratic" societies no longer allowed the right to self-determination of their own communities?

In my opinion topics like this should be eligible for debate; without ad homenim attacks.

Censorship and ignorance is a weapon against the average person.

The average person is being intellectually disarmed.

[–]sudd3nclar1ty 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Like I said, do you. The count's scheme sounds...convoluted. I'm not even sure what I just read, that shit was muddy AF.

As the poster on the Reddit thread remarked, if you are against immigration, then be against immigration. It doesn't have to be a mustache-twirling plot hatched by counts and Zionists.

There are many good, realistic reasons to be against immigration, neoliberalism, genocide and organized religion. Shit I can support any one of those arguments with concrete reasons that have nothing to do with racist conspiracies.

It's tough to be taken seriously unless you accurately define problems and propose related solutions. Otherwise, this is just boring speculation and hate opinion disguised as pseudo-science.

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (6 children)

What does mass immigration have to do with the Syrian civil war? I guess you'll never find out.

[–]sudd3nclar1ty 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Neoliberal chickens coming home to roost? A little dash of drought and climate catastrophe. Proxy war between Russia and the west. Cruel leadership and human rights violations by elites.

If I was unlucky enough to be born in Syria I'd GTFO too. That place is a political shitshow. If western democracies were smart, they'd stabilize these regions so desperate people don't wash up on their shores. Instead we sell arms, invade their neighbors and let allies like Turkey crush the Kurds.

People aren't plants. They can move to safer places. Just wait til the climate really starts heating up and the real fun starts.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Yes. So you see the mass immigration issue is much deeper and more multifaceted than being for or against it. What people are reacting to is a new phenomena that came directly from western involvement in Syria.

[–]bobbobbybob 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

but why are western nations in Syria?

What race of people, embedded in governments worldwide, started those wars?

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Israel trying to conquer the surrounding region and using the US military as the tool to accomplish that? Same reason the US invaded Iraq, Kuwait, and many others in the region.

Now there's a mass exodus created by that war.

[–]Chipit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Syria was destroyed because it was a threat to Israel. It was also a conduit for supplies to Hezbollah.

Most of US Middle East policy is to the benefit of Israel and the detriment of everyone else, including America.

[–]sudd3nclar1ty 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can't argue with this. Israel has been wagging the dog for a long time.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

The count's scheme sounds...convoluted. I'm not even sure what I just read, that shit was muddy AF.

Was the Zionist Hasbara/PROPAGANDA conference "convoluted and confusing"?

Zionists Manipulating Internet And Wikipedia

It doesn't have to be a mustache-twirling plot hatched by counts and Zionists.

Is the Israeli Propaganda Conference a "mustache-twirling plot hatched by counts and Zionists."

It certainly appears to be an Israeli conspiracy.

We're interested in hearing your Hasbara explanation for that???

Also, for anyone reading this comment. A common forum sliding tactic to suppress this sort of info from being read, is to change the voting priority through sock puppet voting.

We'll see if comment:

Black memes, nigger jokes, Mohammed is a pedo, We wanna kill Christ again... All kosher memes and free speech....

Goes down the list, as comment:.

The problem with you morons, is you discuss one thing

Gets sock puppet upvoted.

A convenient method of info suppression.

BTW: /s/Sand313man I'm not criticising your comment.
You're the likely beneficiary of the sock puppets op; collateral damage (benefit?).

[–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"sock puppets"

Nah, I upvoted that shit because I can't stand racists and I agree with what he said. As you can tell by the fact that the original post was also highly-upvoted, there are plenty of people on saidit that don't like racists.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

there are plenty of people on saidit that don't like racists.

I agree with this.

There's also plenty of people here pushing propaganda-Hasbara, which reinforces the perception of racism.

It's not racism, because Israeli operations are actively censoring the internet and suppressing facts that are inconvenient to Israel.

Truth is an absolute defense.

Sockpuppet

The use of the term has expanded to now include other misleading uses of online identities, such as those created to praise, defend, or support a person or organization,[2] to manipulate public opinion,[

[–]dazedandsubdued 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

bro- "sock puppets"? you do realize that a whole bunch of cast out feminists, gays, and lesbians are here with you too now, right? ..perhaps not the most receptive audience for history lessons about the so-called "zionist plot"..

[–]sudd3nclar1ty 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I guess I don't see a problem with organized advocacy for any group. I don't even see a problem with Russian bot farms manipulating public opinion and dividing their opponent's democratic coalitions.

We probably agree that censorship is worse than propaganda. At least with propaganda I am free to research and consider my own explanations.

The most difficult thing for me is to link a series of well-researched points into a coherent and persuasive argument. Apparently I'm not the only one who struggles with this.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I guess I don't see a problem with organized advocacy for any group.

No doubt you are working for a similar Israeli advocacy group.

[–]sudd3nclar1ty 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

LMAO...wheeeeEEee, welcome to Tom's world. Israel is a modern apartheid state and neoconservative lab doing horrible things to peoples and governments worldwide in the name of it's 'security.' There is so much evidence of bad faith dealing, you don't need hidden conspiracies.

Further evidence that sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you're a fool than open it and remove all doubt. Like the fictional character you chose as a username, your opinions are non-sensical and irrelevant:

"Tolkien described Tom in The Lord of the Rings as "just an invention" and "not an important person – to the narrative", even if "he represents something that I feel important, though I would not be prepared to analyse the feeling precisely. I would not, however, have left him in, if he did not have some kind of function"

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Boring...

[–]JuliusCaesar225 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Is it antisemitic to discuss the history of this plan

No, because Kalergi wasn't Jewish.

[–]dazedandsubdued 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

bro- "sock puppets"? you do realize that a whole bunch of cast out feminists, gays, and lesbians are here with you too now, right? ..perhaps not the most receptive audience for history lessons about the so-called "zionist plot"..