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[–]Locke[S] 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (28 children)

I never said ban it. I said don't prominently display it on the front page.

[–]magnora7 39 insightful - 10 fun39 insightful - 9 fun40 insightful - 10 fun -  (27 children)

How exactly do you expect an admin to do that? You want me to fake the upvote counts to diminish something? Not doing that, sorry.

What are you actually proposing here?

[–]Turnaround 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (22 children)

Maybe we can not include some of the more.. "out there" or "distasteful" subs in /all ?

I'm a conservative, but coming on here seeing blatantly racist content is turning me off. I personally didn't leave reddits obvious extreme left wing bias to be surrounded by obvious extreme right wing bias content. But in the interest of letting those people have their place, let's keep it to those that are subscribed to their subs.

[–]whistlepig 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

That is how the internet is and has always been. Maybe you should go back to just using AOL.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Or ADL.

[–]magnora7 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

That's fair, that's basically our policy right now, except how "out there" or "distasteful" something is is judged entirely by how frequently it drags discussion down the pyramid of debate: https://saidit.net/static/PyramidDebate.jpg

I suppose I could tighten that up a bit, but then some people get angry that their free speech is being limited and fear that I am becoming the very censorship we created this place to escape, so it's always a balance.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Base it on pyramid of debate only. Don't start implementing a distasteful gauge. Lots of people distaste all kinds of things.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's how it is, and that's how it shall remain.

[–]PrisonMike 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Did you ever kick the idea around of somehow implementing the debate pyramid in the voting system?

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah like if you could vote what level a comment is on a mini pyramid instead of the voting buttons, that'd be cool. It'd take a big re-write of the code though, to add more than 2 categories of votes.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That would be so cool. I'd love that.

[–]PrisonMike 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ya I figured it would. Maybe it could work in a more roundabout way like the gild/award system in the platform-which-shall-not-be-named.

[–]everythings 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Way better to err on the side of less censorship than more. People who really want to be free will suffer the consequences of freedom and people who want their safe echo chambers with flee back to reddit and demand this site be nuked from the internet

[–]Extract 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Is blocking specific subs/users going to be possible soon?
Cause if the answer is yes, you got the solution for this.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You can mute subs.

[–]Extract 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Then those users got half of what they need.
Any subs that offend their sensibilities can be muted - add in the user option, and they can have their echo chamber.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I like it how it is.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's exactly what FREE SPEECH is all about: you WILL be exposed to views you disagree with. And if you have a mind worthy of that name, you just might learn where you are wrong. Like Jesus said, it's great the way it is.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Eventually, hopefully yes that will be a feature. It's basically at the top of our to-do list

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My point is that those people don't stay in their subs though.

You probably haven't been hanging out on the far/alt right subs, have you?

Most of the places you will have seen racist posts will be s/politics, s/worldnews, etc. You can't hide all subs like that and only have fluffy kittens on the front page. People mostly come to sites like this for the news and debate around it.

I have to also say I did often see the same level of racism on reddit, but it was often covered in weasel words. So rather than saying the jews were evil and behind everything they would say big pharma/ the banks/ the porn industry was conspiring against us then say "I wonder which group of people run those companies, I'm sure it's just a coincidence". Those comments would always get up voted on reddit and is I'd usually be the only one reporting them, I really hope that was down to the stupidity of casual readers.

So this is why I prefer it to be open. You hate to see the racist posts, good, that's a good and healthy reaction. However on reddit you may have well have been upvoting that same person's post, saying exactly the same thing just written in a more manipulative way. That is so dangerous. Yes, it feels better but you need to show it actually leads to better outcomes rather than allowing a more insidious political grooming.

[–]Fitter_Happier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

those people don't stay in their subs though.

Well, tough titty. Neither do you. I don't want you in this sub. How do I go about banning YOU from the public square? I'd feel a lot safer if you just kept your mouth shut. You're making me uncomfortable.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Which ones? You people are hinting at censroship but never give examples. Which posts exactly. Please enlighten us?

[–]Fitter_Happier 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, let's ban the censoring fake "conservative" subs that are serving up pablum poison to the public.

[–]everythings 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just go back to reddit you narrative controlling shill.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

you do keep ice poseidon and gender critical off the front page

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Atho I don't agree with it, IP2 asked to be removed themselves and GenderC keeps banning people for simply being different, having "wrong think" on and off their sub.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's becuase literally everything posted there is an ad hominem.

Conspiracy posts are full of real facts and debates.

If the workd understood the truth, they wouldn't stand for lies. If the world saw and stood for ice Poseidon, nothing wouod change or Aspergers would become a pandemic.

[–]fartwaffen 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He wants to 'shadowban' potentially offensive topics. Getting any dejavu?