GenderCritical does not belong on Saidit. The moderators are determined to not follow site rules.

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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

You can call me hateful all you want. Then you did not understand the points I was making or looked into the claims I was making. Women are the most protected class, out of biological reasons. Women are also the moral arbiters in our society, which is a huge part of why we had such a rush towards the left, why women can start movements like MeToo and MRA can hardly get legislative change passed. Gay men also do not have the social impact you claim. Our automatic in-group preference is for women, not gay men. Women, the sisterhood as I called it, decide what is program, who has moral ascendency in the end, even when it comes to black people or migrants. They are the biggest voting block and have most social cohesion. Any discrimination you can find or allege in society, against minorities such as black people, is stronger against men than that minority.

I will probably comment on this topic many more times, so follow my account. But to play the same tired games of alleging hate, that I will probably have very little patience for. I do not like identity politics and if you want to debate me, debate the arguments I present, not me as a person. I will not be silenced for the gender people think I have (although, I still do not think I have even disclosed that conclusively) and I will not engage discussions about my mental state. You are not my therapist. If Hitler had said 2+2 is 4, it would still be four, no matter how hateful he was, so buzz off with your nonsense. If this is a site where this type of argumentation flies, I might as well go back to Twitter or Reddit.

You can have this idiocy on every mainstream social media platform. If all you are coming here for is to transform this place into the same sort of hug boxes, with the same intellectually weak identity based ways of argumentation, then all you are here for is entryism, not freedom of speech.

Starr, Sonja B. “Estimating Gender Disparities in Federal Criminal Cases.” American Law and Economics Review 17, no. 1 (2014): 127–159.

Hugenberg, Kurt, and Sabine Sczesny. “On Wonderful Women and Seeing Smiles: Social Categorization Moderates the Happy Face Response Latency Advantage.” Social Cognition 24, no. 5 (2006): 516–539.

Rudman, Laurie A., and Stephanie A. Goodwin. “Gender Differences in Automatic In-Group Bias: Why Do Women like Women More than Men like Men?” Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 87, no. 4 (2004): 494.

https://archive.org/details/fraudoffeminism00baxerich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect

I will not repeat all of the points I made, though. You can look at how the sisterhood ostracizes women who go against the narrative, such as Erin Pizzey, Cassey Jaye, etc. but it is still women, in the end, who will call the shots, which is why the transgender trend will be quite short-lived, as soon as women are hurt, such as in sports and why the media's narrative is about trans-women, not trans-men. This is about women, not transgender people, primarily, or we would not hear this little about women transitioning to men. Read my post. It's linked and I will probably keep talking about this until I am censored on this site as well.

[–]joeytundra 30 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 0 fun31 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

you do realize men calling themselves women have been invading women's sports for a long time with women getting hurt and nothing is done about it? Who has you believing women have all this power? Meet Fallon Fox...didn't even disclose from the get go was biologically male. Women were forced to fight this person and cracked a woman's skull open. Nothing was done about it except he got put into the Gay hall of fame even though he's a straight male that identifies as a lesbian. He went hard after this woman because she's a lesbian that doesn't want to have sex with a biological male. There is no pussy pass bro. Tons of shit flies in favor of our wants even if it hurts women and children.

https://www.attacktheback.com/transgender-mma-fighter-fallon-fox-breaks-opponents-skull/

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Why are you responding with this bullshit? This is about freedom of speech.

There is no pussy pass bro.

That is complete bullshit. But regardless whether there is or not, we cannot discuss this in the sub because I can no longer post there. I had also brought up Fallon Fox already myself, which you could have seen if my post wasn't removed -- or if it's still up you did not care to read it. I am not going to rehash all the points I have already spent paragraph after paragraph typing just because of your childish bullshit.

What is the rationale here exactly? That Fallon Fox comes through the screen to kick you in the head if he disagrees with you? If people cannot have valuable input on a topic due to their gender then that implies that they must have a certain opinion due to their gender. If you want to limit your sub because of someone's assumed gender then you want to limit your sub because people might disagree with you. Then why not just set the party line on the sub rules to the points of discussion that people have to fall in line with?

I could set up another account, use a VPN, Tor or something and you would never know my gender. Or, you would have to also ban women who you think are men, based on their comments, so it comes down to party line again. You do not actually know from the words on the screen who is male or female.

What you are doing is not creating a space for women, even if that was sensible online, you are creating, once more, a sub with a given party line. Otherwise, what you are saying is that women have a certain set of opinion, or they are not women.

Go fuck yourself.

[–]joeytundra 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Such a child you are. Grow up bro. Be a real man not a woman hating soy boy!

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That's precisely part of it: a man, according to simps, must be someone who serves women. Without it, they are not a man. You also have to misrepresent my position by saying that I hate women, which is not true. I (apparently) hate radfems, but that is because of the positions they hold, not because of who they are, as women, due to their gender. They, however, seem to be among the people who think that people hold certain opinions because of them being men or women. I would say that's sexist.

Also, if you are part of that sub, are you a woman? Why do you keep saying "bro"? Are you a guy who needs to be kicked from the sub?

Hey, is there a process for you people at Gender*Critical to determine sex, for the purpose of your community rules? Let's put them to the test. I want to see them working.

I actually do not think that I have stated my gender to any of you. It seems like an assumption, perhaps, was made, but I would really like to know if u/joeytundra is a valid member of your community or not. Mods? s/Gender_Critical, any thoughts? Come on. I want to see your logic in action. I want to see you make a call on this.

Please walk us through this process, in transparent a fashion as possible.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

s/Gender_Critical, any thoughts?

just fyi if you want to tag someone you can use their username, e.g. /u/ccccccc. Then they will get a notification of the message they were tagged in (unless they turned that off). I didn't see this message until now.