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[–]Trajan 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah, that's a problem. The thing about deleted comments is that they are still be visible to the person who posted them, so they could quote them when alerting others to censorship. The problem then is that people can lie. The downside to making deleted posts visible is that there can be very good reasons to keep posts invisible (e.g. somebody posting content that would be a legal issue or present physical risk, such as doxing).

I'm inclined to look at patterns. If somebody makes a habit of making insulting posts then it was probably deserved. If somebody has a decent history of posting, even if their views are contentious, then I'd be inclined to side with them.

[–]theoracle 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It is stupid that deleted comments can't be revealed by anyone. If there's legal issues or dox then you could make that separate and actually delete proper, but that is probably an issue for admins. Process could go mod selects option for illegal or dox, admin reviews, if it's wrong then there is repercussions for the mod.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

/u/magnora7

I like these ideas. Mods can only perma delete if they flag with 'CP' or 'pron' or whatever. Just name calling (my specialty) would leave the deleted content retroactively accessible.

Would that be hard to do?

[–]theoracle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would like a check box/menu in the side bar to make moderated comments and posts, either of these options hidden, collapsed or revealed. These basic three options would be a start towards optional moderation. Let the readers choose what they want to see.