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[–]Bitchcraft 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Well tanks for working on saidit. I really hope that this place will not go the way of voat. Among the "alternative reddits" I've seen so far, this is the most promising.

[–]Wahwah 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

What is so wrong about Voat? Genuinely curious.

[–]Bitchcraft 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

I started out ok, but it got completly hijacked by absolute bottomfeeders. Voat allows downvoteing, so anybody who dares to say that "cucked nigger faggot" is not a valuable contribution gets hounded off the site. The admins never made any attempt to promote high effort content. Voat uses a bizarre .NET based software stack that makes the hosting cost absolutely ridiculous. My theory is that voat made itself dependent on rightoid/incel donations to keep going.

Essentially they never managed to have any OC and became a wasteland of very predictable incel/rightoid circlejerking. The pyramid of debate on saidit at the very least shows a commitment to encouraging high-quality content. Based on what I've seen so far, it is believable that saidit manages to establish a steady stream of content beyond the endless bitching about reddit, so I'm optimistic.

[–]magnora7 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

On top of all this, voat also made a voting system where if you're a new account, you can't downvote others until you get 100 upvotes. And you can only give so many upvotes per hour before you get 100 upvotes. And only post and comments so many times per hour. And if you get downvoted at all, that gets even more limited.

So basically if you go against the hivemind, the established culture on voat downvotes you in to silence, and then you can't even downvote them back. So this karma-limited account system made the echo-chamber culture feedback loop go exponential. So when the extremists actually got a hold of the site culture, there was no coming back from it

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Woah, that's actually pretty interesting, and stupid on their part.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah they thought it would protect the site. I think they called it the "founders' effect" and man did it backfire.